Thursday, 11 September 2008

Autumn Angst: Dems fret about Obama


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Polls showing McCain tied or even ahead of Obama are stirring angst among some of the Democratic Party’s most experienced operatives.
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Polls showing John McCain tied or even ahead of Barack Obama are stirring angst and second-guessing among some of the Democratic Party’s most experienced operatives, who worry that Obama squandered opportunities over the summer and may still be underestimating his challenges this fall.

“It’s more than an increased anxiety,” said Doug Schoen, who worked as one of Bill Clinton’s lead pollsters during his 1996 reelection and has worked for both Democrats and independents in recent years. “It’s a palpable frustration. Deep-seated unease in the sense that the message has gotten away from them.”

Joe Trippi, a consultant behind Howard Dean’s flash-in-the-pan presidential campaign in 2004 and John Edwards’ race in 2008, said the Obama campaign was slow to recognize how the selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as McCain’s running mate would change the dynamic of the race.

“They were set up to run ‘experience versus change,’ what they had run [against Hillary] Clinton,” Trippi said. “And I think Palin clearly moved that to be change [and] reform, versus change. They are adjusting to that and that threw them off balance a little bit.”

A major Democratic fundraiser described it a good bit more starkly after digesting the polls of recent days: “I’m so depressed. It’s happening again. It’s a nightmare.”

Adding to Democratic restlessness, McCain has largely neutralized some issue advantages that have long favored Democrats.

This week’s USA Today/Gallup poll reported a split on which candidate “can better handle the economy”; 48 percent chose Obama while 45 percent said McCain. In late August, Obama had a 16-point edge on the issue.

Also this week, an ABC News/Washington Post poll reported that when voters are asked “who can bring about needed change to Washington,” McCain still trails Obama by 12 points. But in June, McCain trailed by 32 points.

That shift in the public’s perception of the issues, in Democratic pollster Celinda Lake’s words, “tremendously concerns me.”

Lake joined other Democratic veterans, some speaking not for attribution, in emphasizing a classic liberal woe: that the Democrat let the Republican define him.

“Obama needed to define himself,” Lake said. “I do think that during the Democratic convention we should have done a better job of defining McCain.”

Steve Rosenthal, a veteran field organizer for Democrats and organized labor, said that some entrenched Democratic vulnerabilities never receded this year. And in his view, Palin has reawakened those liberal weaknesses.

“For some white, working-class voters who don’t want to vote for Barack Obama but weren’t sure about McCain, Palin gave them a good reason to take another look and consider supporting McCain,” Rosenthal said.

“On the one hand, it could be a temporary reshuffling of the deck,” he added. “And on the other hand, it underscores the deep-seated problems we have in this race with race, class and culture.

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avatar for user OhWoeAmerica..
Party: Republican
Reply #1
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:41 PM EST

STUPID DUMB AZZ DUMOCRATS IN THE PUBLIC EYE AGAIN!! The more they open their friggin mouths the more they have to cry for an apology.. Who the hell are these friggin idiots.. They can't even run a campaign, let alone a country?? Lol!! Priceless Airheads....Off In La La Land.. ;))) Axelrod/Hussein/Biden.. Blind leading the Blind!!
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Party: Libertarian
Reply #2
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:44 PM EST

The more Obama is exposed, the bigger Mc Cains lead will become. This battering of Palin by the media attack dogs is backfiring on them big time. People are smart enough to know that Obama's handlers are behind it. This is dirty politics at it's worst. It was good to see the two haters demoted by MSNBC. Their ratings reflected their slanted hatefull coverage of this election.
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Party: Conservative
Reply #3
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:46 PM EST

DEMOCRATIC SUPERDELEGATES, MAIN STREAM MEDIA, AND HOWARD DEAN ARE TO OPEC OF STUPID FOR SELECTING BARACK OBAMA, WITHOUT HILLARY CLINTON AS A RUNNING MATE. I LEARNED A LONG TIME AGO SOMETHING ABOUT SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ADVERTISING A MESSAGE. IF YOU HAVE A WEAK, WRONG, OR CONFUSING PRODUCT OR MESSAGE, THE MORE MONEY YOU SPEND, THE WORSE YOUR IMAGE GETS.
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Party: Conservative
Reply #4
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:47 PM EST

Obama blew it the moment he went negative. His appeal was because of a positive attitude about change. He isn't a streetfighter, lacks the ability to communicate concisely with one-liners that resonate... Politicians either have that ability, or they do not. Both McCain and Palin do, as does Biden to a limited extent (when he does not stick his foot in his mouth).

The Repubs got him away from fighting from a position of strength, to standing in the mud wearing a 5,000 suit... His campaign and message has also become incredibly sloppy and hostile, much more so than in the past. I predicted this would occur when the Clinton castoffs (Solis Doyle, etc) joined his campaign, and it has.

The biggest mistake they made was to alter his message which took away that shining ray of optimism and hope. He was so positive and nice, people believed in the change. Once that allure is gone, people just see an intelligent man trying to be a fake thug. Look for a major shakeup at the top of his campaign in the next several days...

In football terms, you don't run a 195 pound running back up the middle 20 times per game... At this rate, his season will not last very long... Which is bad for America because we need a stronger discourse of ideas to ensure the American people get the best deal possible, and not one of the two political parties.


"A politician will do anything to keep his job - even become a patriot." -William Randolph Hearst (comments, Obama?)
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Reply #5
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:49 PM EST

I thought that Obama would be a slam dunk. I can't stand the guy, but he is good at the BS and liberals love that. That and his novelty of being a minority would give them the tingles. They are like kids looking for a thrill. However they have a long history of being ARROGANT and condescending. They are what can make living in NY City and other cities suck a pain in the butt. THEY JUST KNOW THEY ARE RIGHT, SO FORGET ABOUT TELLING THEM ANYTHING. Send them to Harvard and law school and it only gets worse.

I WISH THEM THE WORST, BUT ONLY TIME WILL TELL.


Democratic motto: I got mine,now I am going to take yours and give it to people who vote for me. Politico: the official Obama robe rub and tingle site.
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Reply #6
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:49 PM EST

The bottom line is that Obama and Biden are seen as big spending liberals. We all know that throwing them the keys to the car with Pelosi in the back seat would be an economic and social disaster.
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Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:52 PM EST
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Reply #8
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:52 PM EST

TeamPolitico: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:32 PM EST

Polls showing John McCain tied or even ahead of Barack Obama are stirring angst and second-guessing among some of the Democratic Party’s most experienced operatives, who worry that Obama squandered opportunities over the summer and may still be underestimating his challenges this fall.

Woe... Ya THINK?

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Party: Democrat
Reply #9
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:52 PM EST

Wow what a completely ignorant comment OhWoeAmerica.., Obama certainly knows (or knew) how to run a political campaign in his stopping of the Clinton juggernaut. And McCain still doesn't know how to run a campaign, that's why Steve Schmidt and other Rove boys are doing it for him. The race is going to be very close. I have no idea why Obama picked his running mate after McCain. Democrats should have moved their primary until after the Republican primary. Both candidates have a good chance of winning in November.
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Reply #10
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:52 PM EST

Wow what a completely ignorant comment OhWoeAmerica.., Obama certainly knows (or knew) how to run a political campaign in his stopping of the Clinton juggernaut. And McCain still doesn't know how to run a campaign, that's why Steve Schmidt and other Rove boys are doing it for him. The race is going to be very close. I have no idea why Obama picked his running mate after McCain. Democrats should have moved their primary until after the Republican primary. Both candidates have a good chance of winning in November.
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Reply #11
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:52 PM EST

Vlad the impaler: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:49 PM EST

I thought that Obama would be a slam dunk. I can't stand the guy, but he is good at the BS and liberals love that. That and his novelty of being a minority would give them the tingles. They are like kids looking for a thrill. However they have a long history of being ARROGANT and condescending. They are what can make living in NY City and other cities suck a pain in the butt. THEY JUST KNOW THEY ARE RIGHT, SO FORGET ABOUT TELLING THEM ANYTHING. Send them to Harvard and law school and it only gets worse.

I WISH THEM THE WORST, BUT ONLY TIME WILL TELL.

Now Vlad, are you messing with my mind. Which is it with you? You for him or against him?


Mercer The Home is the greatest influence on the character of Mankind
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Party: Conservative
Reply #12
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:52 PM EST

Don't look now, but Barry just smacked readers of Popular Mechanic's magazine, on David Letterbum. These are the very people that he needs, in order to find alternative energy driven vehicles. Great job!

All McCain needs to do is let this guy talk without a prompter...


Holy Meltdown, Batman!
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Reply #13
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:54 PM EST

Vlad the impaler: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:49 PM EST

However they have a long history of being ARROGANT and condescending. They are what can make living in NY City and other cities suck a pain in the butt. THEY JUST KNOW THEY ARE RIGHT, SO FORGET ABOUT TELLING THEM ANYTHING. Send them to Harvard and law school and it only gets worse.

You hit the nail on the head. It is ironic that the liberal savior has morphed into that which the Left derides the Republican party for being -- elitist, rich, ivy-league snobs. His arrogance is his achilles heel. All McCain and Palin need to do is play it safe and jab a few times per round. Obama and Biden will continue to fly into the bug zapper because they are too arrogant to notice their mistakes.


"A politician will do anything to keep his job - even become a patriot." -William Randolph Hearst (comments, Obama?)
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Reply #14
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:54 PM EST

obama never answered the questions about ayres the mad bomber, wright that married him and was his pastor and his patriotism. he just acted like a dictator and said nobody was going to question his interior motives. well guess what obama we didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday and we no how to VOTE. VOTE NO NO obama in NOV.
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Reply #15
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:55 PM EST

I've never been prouder to be a Republican.
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Reply #16
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:55 PM EST

TeamPolitico: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:32 PM EST

Polls showing John McCain tied or even ahead of Barack Obama are stirring angst and second-guessing among some of the Democratic Party’s most experienced operatives, who worry that Obama squandered opportunities over the summer and may still be underestimating his challenges this fall.

Loving it.


"You can put lipstick on a pig," Obama said. "It's still a pig."
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Reply #17
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:55 PM EST

One could easily believe that Obamas campaign is being undermined from withing the DNC! You have Mr and Mrs fowler making assine comments from Gustav proving god is on the DNC side and that Palins only qualification is that she hasnt had an abortion. And that you have Joe Biden, its hard to tell if hes purposefully saying things un helpfull since that is his nature. The clintons are behind the scenes sabotoging Obama looking towrds 2012.
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Party: Conservative
Reply #18
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:55 PM EST

crazy canuck: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:52 PM EST

It's just Rove trying to confuse us.

That is the other mistake the Liberals make. Nobody cares about Rove except for the fringe left. It is a loser issue for losers to harp on, and it will not cull support. It makes you look like whiners. As you said, focus on the issues...


"A politician will do anything to keep his job - even become a patriot." -William Randolph Hearst (comments, Obama?)
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Reply #19
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:56 PM EST
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Party: Democrat
Reply #20
Date: Sep. 10, 2008 - 7:57 PM EST  updated

GOV. PALIN- AS A WOMAN MYSELF, I BELIEVE THERE IS NO HONOR IN LYING. SO, PLEASE CUT THE CRAP O.K.? MY VOTE IS WITH AN HONORABLE TICKET - OBAMA/BIDEN '08 THE HONORABLE MAVERICKS
"ENOUGH!"- OBAMA '08
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