Wednesday, 29 October 2008

Brown as the original begetter of the whole financial shambles 
deserves  every criticism going.  He caused it,  and so far from 
putting it right, he plans to make it worse by doing more of what he 
did to cause it in the first place - over-borrow.

And if David Willetts is right he's putting a levy, not so much on 
the rich, but on those struggling to keep afloat  by lowering the 
means test for university applicants.   "Tax the Poor" makes a good 
slogan, doesn't it ? He did it before with the 10p tax rate.

Then we turn to Cameron and Brown at parliamentary Questions!


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POLITICS HOME   29.10.08  at 1330
The World At One, BBC Radio 4
Caroline Spelman: We are right to attack Brown over economy


Caroline Spelman, Conservative Chairman

Ms Spelman defended Conservative attacks on Gordon Brown's handling 
economy, amid claims her party had offered no alternative policies.

  "I think we are right to attack a Prime Minister who, after all, 
set his stall out with a set of fiscal rules which he claimed would 
survive the full economic cycle," she said.

She added: "The Prime Minister seemed to be a in a state of denial 
that his rules had set out the test of time."
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BBC News  at 1521
Cutting grants is "extraordinary incompetence" says Willetts

David Willetts, Shadow University Secretary


Mr. Willetts condemned the government's plans to lower the income bar 
for student grants.

He said: "it's a very heavy blow to middle-income families.  It's all 
the worse for coming now when tens of thousands of students have 
already applied for university.  That really is extraordinary 
incompetence by the government."

Mr. Willetts continued: "This is unprecedented.  It shows that Gordon 
Brown can't get his sums right.  It's students and their families 
that are going to be the victims."
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BBC ONLINE   29.10.08
Fiscal rules are dead - Cameron

David Cameron has said Gordon Brown's fiscal rules have "collapsed 
completely" as the two clashed in the Commons over Labour's economic 
record.


Mr Cameron said it was unclear whether existing Treasury rules on 
borrowing and debt levels were "alive, dead or in some sort of 
suspended animation".

But Mr Brown said he had met the rules, [No he hasn't.  Whenever he 
broke them he repeatedly changed the figures to look as though he was 
meeting them -cs]   arguing the Tories had no coherent policy on 
dealing with the downturn.

Alistair Darling will address borrowing requirements in a speech later.

Spending clash
In his annual address to the Cass Business School, the chancellor 
will offer reassurance that the government will not borrow 
irresponsibly because of the global financial downturn.

Mr Brown defended his so-called "golden rules" - which state the 
government should only borrow to invest over an economic cycle not to 
fund current spending and public sector debt must remain below 40% of 
national income - against attacks from Mr Cameron.

The Tory leader said the rules had "failed to deliver responsibility 
in the good years and as the bad times came they have collapsed 
completely".

But Mr Brown said borrowing levels under Labour were lower than under 
the last Conservative government.
"We have met our fiscal rules in the last 10 years," he said.
"They broke the roof. We fixed it."

The two leaders also argued over how to best support the economy to 
prevent the current downturn from doing lasting damage.
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  Having excited his party with talk of a new Keynesian economic 
policy, Mr Darling is now trying to reassure the markets that our old 
friend Prudence is just sleeping - and is not actually dead
Nick Robinson, BBC News Political Editor

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Mr Cameron said the prime minister had been "caught red-handed" 
making "irresponsible" claims about government plans to spend its way 
out of the current problems.

But Mr Brown said the Tories had no consistent approach to helping 
minimise the impact of the economic slowdown.
"We have to spend in a way which takes us through this economic 
crisis," Mr Brown said.  [That's what I call a non-answer! -cs]

'Out of control'
The Tories have claimed that borrowing levels - which totalled 
£37.6bn between April and September - are already "out of control".

They maintain that further increases in borrowing would not be a 
panacea for the economy but a reflection of the chancellor's need to 
plug a widening gap in his finances with tax revenues falling and 
unemployment costs rising.

While accepting that it may be "necessary" to borrow more in an 
economic downturn, the Lib Dems have said the government must 
demonstrate it has a plan to rebalance the public finances once the 
economy starts growing again.

The party's treasury spokesman Vince Cable said Labour's fiscal rules 
had already "lost much of their credibility" and Mr Darling must now 
admit they have been broken.
"During a recession it is inevitable that the budget deficit will 
increase," he said.

"However, it is entirely wrong for the government to assume that the 
economy should be stimulated by yet more public spending rather than 
tax cuts, particularly for the low paid."

The BBC's political editor Nick Robinson said that while Mr Darling 
may quietly concede that the fiscal rules are at an end, he will say 
a future framework for borrowing and debt levels will still be 
responsible.

Battle over Keynes
Suggestions the government will bring forward large public works 
projects to support spending and employment during the downturn have 
been criticised by some experts.


A group of leading economists have described this "Keynesian" 
philosophy - named after the economist John Maynard Keynes - as 
"misguided and discredited" amid concerns it could harm the private 
sector which they believe should lead the economy recovery.

Mr Darling would seek to "pour a little cold water" on talk of a full 
return to Keynesian economics, the BBC's Nick Robinson added.
He will point out that the economist argued that spending should not 
be cut in a downturn, not that it should be allowed to "let rip".