This is vital because if there are no dividends the Treasury will 
never any  of its money back.  Quite apart from the EU telling a proud 
people in  effect that 'we say, you've lost your money; now be quiet 
and do as you're  told'.  The deals may well fall through for this 
reason.
If that  were to happen bank recovery would grind to a crawl and RBS 
and HBOS would  fail while Lloyds-TSB might scrape through along with 
the stronger HSBC,  Barclays, and  Abbey  with other institutions like 
Nationwide  etc .   Apartr from illustrating our total loss of 
independence it also shows that  the EU hasn't a clue what it's 
doing.  Ye Gods!
   Guardian
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TELEGRAPH   17.10.08
EU bans  bail-out bank dividends for five years
Robert Winnett The Daily  Telegraph
The European Commission banned banks taking part in Gordon  Brown's 
emergency bail-out from paying dividends to shareholders for up to  
five years, it was disclosed yesterday.
The intervention by Brussels  officials threatens to deny investors 
significant income and could threaten  the Government's scheme.
The banks are now in urgent discussions with the  Treasury to 
renegotiate the terms of the bail-out. There are fears that  the 
European stipulation could lead to the collapse of the Lloyds TSB- 
HBOS mer-ger.
The issue is crucial as banks need to pay dividends to  attract 
private investors. Pension funds rely on the payment of dividends  for 
returns. John McFall, the Labour MP and chairman of the Commons  
Treasury select committee, said dividends should be paid. "The  
Government wants the first cut for the taxpayers, and they don't want  
anything to get in the way, but if we are to have confidence in  
financial companies then we have to ensure that dividends are paid to  
make it attractive for investors to come in,'' he said.
"Because if  investors don't come in then the Government will own even 
more, so we've  got to get this balance.'
Under the scheme unveiled by Mr Brown the  Government will buy 
"preference'' shares in at least three banks - Lloyds  TSB, RBS and HBOS.
The preference shares are different from ordinary shares  as the banks 
must pay a fixed rate of interest to the holders of the shares  - in 
this case the Treasury. The rate of interest has been set at 12 per  
cent - higher than normal - which ministers hoped would mean the 
scheme  did not fall foul of competition laws. The preference shares 
cannot be  repaid for at least five years.
When announcing the scheme on Monday, the  Government initially said 
that dividends may not be paid until the  preference shares were 
repaid. However, after banking shares fell it was  claimed that the 
Treasury had "clarified'' the deal and that the dividend  suspension 
could be renegotiated after a year.
However, the European  Commission has ruled that the bail-out can 
proceed only if dividends are  banned until the preference shares are 
repaid.
Jonathan Todd, a  spokesman for the commission, said: "The commission 
wanted to ensure that  there was a strong incentive for the banks to 
repay the state as quickly as  possible.
"We did not consider that applying a penal interest rate would be  
sufficient to achieve that.''
He added: "Initially the UK Government  thought the penal interest 
rate would be sufficient disincentive for the  banks. We insisted that 
the payment of the dividends should be suspended  while the state 
still had the preference shares.''
Mr Todd also  claimed that the Government had agreed last weekend to 
the Commission's  terms.
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