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Muslim peer in ‘student war’ slur
From The Jewish Chronicle
Marcus Dysch
February 5, 2009
Lord Ahmed claims UK Jewish groups actively recruited volunteers to fight with IDF
Allegations: Lord Ahmed
A Muslim peer has claimed that student societies are recruiting young British Jews to join the Israeli army. They fought, he said, in last month’s Gaza conflict and should be prosecuted for war crimes on their return to this country.
Lord Ahmed of Rotherham said student unions had been “actively recruiting young people in Britain to join the Israeli Defence Force”.
British citizens had, he claimed, “gone out to fight against the Palestinian people”.
The evidence on which he said he based his claim was a 2007 blog posting from the website of Akram Awad, a Palestine Solidarity Group activist who caused outrage among students the previous year by introducing a motion which effectively gagged Leeds University’s Jewish Society.
Lord Ahmed’s comments were made during an interview with Press TV, the Iranian government-funded news channel, after he was asked whether British citizens were serving with the Israeli army.
He told the interviewer that newspaper reports in January had shown that to be the case and continued: “How many of those have been involved in war crimes? How many of those have broken the Geneva Convention?
“When they come back to this country, we want our government to take some legal action against them.
“The IDF and those who serve in it have been involved in the massacre of civilians… There is just no excuse for anyone to get away from these war crimes this time.”
The Union of Jewish Students said the peer’s allegations were part of a “continued campaign” against British Jewish organisations.
The blog posting from May 13, 2007 stated: “I could never imagine that the UJS is shameful enough to call the Jewish British students for ‘National Service’ in Israel by voluntarily serving in the Israeli Occupation Army.”
It went on to give details of the Sar-El programme, which offers volunteers the chance to work in Israeli nursing homes, and stay on army bases packing supply bags or helping in kitchens.
Volunteers do not see front-line action.
Explaining his comments, Lord Ahmed said he would not limit charges to Jewish students, but “any British citizen who goes abroad to take religious education from any school and then gets involved with killing any innocent civilians. I was talking generally.
“I definitely think if there’s evidence then they should be prosecuted here for war crimes when they return. God willing I will pursue it. Regardless of what community they are from, if they have broken international law they should be prosecuted.”
Yair Zivan, UJS campaigns director, said: “Lord Ahmed seems purposely to confuse volunteer programmes in the IDF and full military service as part of his continued campaign to attack and undermine British Jewish institutions.”
The 51-year-old peer, who is a trustee of the Jewish-Muslim dialogue group, the Joseph Interfaith Foundation, was interviewed following a House of Lords debate last week during which he asked whether British citizens who had “served in Gaza” would be prosecuted.
During the debate, Baroness Tonge asked whether the government was concerned that “every summer many Jewish schoolchildren from this country go to Israel for military and citizenship training by the Education and Youth Corps of the IDF?”
Foreign Office minister Lord Malloch-Brown responded by saying it was “very unlikely” any UK nationals had served in recent operations.
The House of Lords Whips Office said it was unlikely action would be taken against Lord Ahmed following his comments
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Britain Capitulates To Terror
If anyone had doubted the extent to which Britain has capitulated to Islamic terror, the banning of Geert Wilders a few hours ago should surely open their eyes. Wilders, the Dutch member of parliament who had made an uncompromising stand against the Koranic sources of Islamist extremism and violence, was due to give a screening of Fitna, his film on this subject, at the House of Lords on Thursday. This meeting had been postponed after Lord Ahmed had previously threatened the House of Lords authorities that he would bring a force of 10,000 Muslims to lay siege to the Lords if Wilders was allowed to speak. To their credit, the Lords authorities had stood firm and said extra police would be drafted in to meet this threat and the Wilders meeting should go ahead.
But now the government has announced that it is banning Wilders from the country. A letter from the Home Secretary’s office to Wilders, delivered via the British embassy in the Hague, said:
...the Secretary of State is of the view that your presence in the UK would pose a genuine, present and sufficiently serious threat to one of the fundamental interests of society. The Secretary of State is satisfied that your statements about Muslims and their beliefs, as expressed in your film Fitna and elsewhere would threaten community harmony and therefore public security in the UK.
So let’s get this straight. The British government allows people to march through British streets screaming support for Hamas, it allows Hizb ut Tahrir to recruit on campus for the jihad against Britain and the west, it takes no action against a Muslim peer who threatens mass intimidation of Parliament, but it bans from the country a member of parliament of a European democracy who wishes to address the British Parliament on the threat to life and liberty in the west from religious fascism.
It is he, not them, who is considered a ‘serious threat to one of the fundamental interests of society’. Why? Because the result of this stand for life and liberty against those who would destroy them might be an attack by violent thugs. The response is not to face down such a threat of violence but to capitulate to it instead.
It was the same reasoning that led the police on those pro-Hamas marches to confiscate the Israeli flag, on the grounds that it would provoke violence, while those screaming support for genocide and incitement against the Jews were allowed to do so. The reasoning was that the Israeli flag might provoke thuggery while the genocidal incitement would not. So those actually promoting aggression were allowed to do so while those who threatened no-one at all were repressed. And now a Dutch politician who doesn’t threaten anyone is banned for telling unpalatable truths about those who do; while those who threaten life and liberty find that the more they do so, the more the British government will do exactly what they want, in the interests of ‘community harmony’.
Wilders is a controversial politician, to be sure. But this is another fateful and defining issue for Britain’s governing class as it continues to sleepwalk into cultural suicide. If British MPs do not raise hell about this banning order, if they go along with this spinelessness, if they fail to stand up for the principle that the British Parliament of all places must be free to hear what a fellow democratically elected politician has to say about one of the most difficult and urgent issues of our time, if they fail to hold the line against the threat of violence but capitulate to it instead, they will be signalling that Britain is no longer the cradle of freedom and democracy but its graveyard.
Allegations: Lord Ahmed
Britain Capitulates To Terror
If anyone had doubted the extent to which Britain has capitulated to Islamic terror, the banning of Geert Wilders a few hours ago should surely open their eyes. Wilders, the Dutch member of parliament who had made an uncompromising stand against the Koranic sources of Islamist extremism and violence, was due to give a screening of Fitna, his film on this subject, at the House of Lords on Thursday. This meeting had been postponed after Lord Ahmed had previously threatened the House of Lords authorities that he would bring a force of 10,000 Muslims to lay siege to the Lords if Wilders was allowed to speak. To their credit, the Lords authorities had stood firm and said extra police would be drafted in to meet this threat and the Wilders meeting should go ahead.
But now the government has announced that it is banning Wilders from the country. A letter from the Home Secretary’s office to Wilders, delivered via the British embassy in the Hague, said:
...the Secretary of State is of the view that your presence in the UK would pose a genuine, present and sufficiently serious threat to one of the fundamental interests of society. The Secretary of State is satisfied that your statements about Muslims and their beliefs, as expressed in your film Fitna and elsewhere would threaten community harmony and therefore public security in the UK.
So let’s get this straight. The British government allows people to march through British streets screaming support for Hamas, it allows Hizb ut Tahrir to recruit on campus for the jihad against Britain and the west, it takes no action against a Muslim peer who threatens mass intimidation of Parliament, but it bans from the country a member of parliament of a European democracy who wishes to address the British Parliament on the threat to life and liberty in the west from religious fascism.
It is he, not them, who is considered a ‘serious threat to one of the fundamental interests of society’. Why? Because the result of this stand for life and liberty against those who would destroy them might be an attack by violent thugs. The response is not to face down such a threat of violence but to capitulate to it instead.
It was the same reasoning that led the police on those pro-Hamas marches to confiscate the Israeli flag, on the grounds that it would provoke violence, while those screaming support for genocide and incitement against the Jews were allowed to do so. The reasoning was that the Israeli flag might provoke thuggery while the genocidal incitement would not. So those actually promoting aggression were allowed to do so while those who threatened no-one at all were repressed. And now a Dutch politician who doesn’t threaten anyone is banned for telling unpalatable truths about those who do; while those who threaten life and liberty find that the more they do so, the more the British government will do exactly what they want, in the interests of ‘community harmony’.
Wilders is a controversial politician, to be sure. But this is another fateful and defining issue for Britain’s governing class as it continues to sleepwalk into cultural suicide. If British MPs do not raise hell about this banning order, if they go along with this spinelessness, if they fail to stand up for the principle that the British Parliament of all places must be free to hear what a fellow democratically elected politician has to say about one of the most difficult and urgent issues of our time, if they fail to hold the line against the threat of violence but capitulate to it instead, they will be signalling that Britain is no longer the cradle of freedom and democracy but its graveyard.