Tuesday, 10 March 2009

This to me seems a 'pig-in-a-poke'.  Most of my readers want LESS EU 
[except those who want out altogether!!] not a pan-EU party to give 
it more legitimacy and thus tie us closer in!    The Beeb will 
undoubtedly latch on to this because it will split the anti-Socialist 
and anti-EU voters and deliver us up bound hand and foot to the 
socialist EU.

It has only one  merit and that is that it is against the Lisbon 
Treaty but these elections will have no bearing on that!

So it's back to wondering who on earth to vote for.  If we were'nt 
hamstrung by a cunningly contrived ant-democratic list system there 
are plenty of good Tories who deserve our vote.  But to get them you 
have to take the europhile rubbish too.

It might have to be a clothes peg on  my nose as I vote for the BNP,  
I suppose.


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BBC ONLINE 10.3.09
Libertas enter EU elections in UK

A new political party aiming to "bring more democracy" to the EU has 
been launched in the UK and plans to fight every seat in June's 
European election.

Libertas, which campaigned against the Lisbon Treaty in an Irish 
referendum last year, said it would send a "clear message" the treaty 
was unacceptable.

Declan Ganley, the party's founder, has not ruled out standing but 
said he would not bankroll its efforts.

Libertas said it was "pro-European" and wanted to contest seats 
across the EU.

Businessman Mr Ganley became a household name in Ireland when he led 
the successful campaign against the Lisbon Treaty last year.

'No limits'
Libertas plans to field candidates in every EU state in June, calling 
for radical reform of its institutions to make them more democratic 
and accountable.

The party's UK campaign will be led by Robin Matthews, a former 
soldier who left the army last year after more than 20 years' service 
in countries such as Bosnia and Afghanistan.

At a launch in London, Mr Matthews said there was "no limit" to its 
ambitions and it wanted to be seen as a serious political force.

The party is currently recruiting candidates but has not committed 
itself to contesting any elections beyond June.

Mr Ganley said he would not put any of his own money into the 
campaign, saying the party would rely on individual donations, both 
from small donors and businesses.

He said the EU's failure to deal with the current financial crisis 
was evidence of its weakness and he attacked Gordon Brown for 
"deceiving" voters by not holding a referendum on the Lisbon treaty 
in the UK.

Second referendum
The Conservatives and UKIP, which have fought for a referendum in the 
UK on the treaty, have questioned how much support the new party 
could command.

Robin Matthews said there was "no limit" to Libertas' ambitions

The Lib Dems, who back the Lisbon treaty, said the launch of Libertas 
meant "anti-European voters in Europe were spoilt for choice" in the 
upcoming election.

Irish voters are due to vote again on the treaty later this year 
after rejecting it by a wide margin last year.

The majority of EU countries, including the UK, have ratified the 
treaty - which requires the backing of all 27 member states.

Ireland is the only country to have held a referendum on it.
Supporters of the treaty say it will speed up decision-making and 
make the EU more efficient, enabling it to react more quickly to the 
economic challenges facing Europe.

But critics say the treaty will centralise even more power in 
Brussels and it is largely similar to the EU constitution rejected by 
voters in France and the Netherlands in 2005.
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BBC Blog 10.3.09
What does Libertas really want?
. Mark Mardell

Libertas are launching their British campaign for the June European 
elections today, saying that a vote for them is a vote to bring 
democracy into the European Union. But with no manifesto unveiled, 
how do we really know what they stand for?

Libertas, you might remember were the people who campaigned for the 
"no" vote in the Irish election. As a result, they are loathed by 
those who feel the EU is nothing without the new treaty. They've said 
they will put up candidates in all 27 EU member states and I am told 
they are well on course in all but a handful.

They've just announced that their UK party leader is Robin Mathews, a 
former director in the Army's department of corporate communications, 
who's served in Cyprus, Bosnia, Iraq and Afghanistan. Before the 
launch, I asked him why people should vote for him.
"It sends a very clear message to those unelected elites and 
bureaucrats, who seek to daily interfere in our lives more closely, 
that this cannot go on without proper accountability. The EU needs to 
change. Libertas believes in a strong Europe but also believes unless 
democracy is at the heart of that we'll never be able to deliver," he 
said.

But how would they bring more democracy to the EU?
"Give people a clear platform and give them a chance to vote for you 
knowing that because of your pan-European approach, you can bring 
democracy to the heart of Europe," he explained.

But what does this mean? Electing the European Commission, or 
electing the new European Council president as Libertas founder 
Declan Ganley believes?
"What ever you do with elected commissioners or an elected 
commission, they must be accountable to the people. Libertas is 
seeking such a mandate at the ballot box and that is our first task 
before we look at exactly ways to reform the commission, president or 
what ever," Mr Mathews said.

There was a lot more in this vein. Mr Mathews's argument was that 
Libertas could deliver a vote across the entire EU, and that would 
bring more democracy into the system. But, he was unwilling or unable 
to suggest how do this.

This is interesting because while most people would probably support 
the idea of "more democracy in the EU", it is not clear what it means.

More powers for the European Parliament? An elected president? An 
elected commission? All of those would take power away from the 
people who we choose in general elections. I suspect most people who 
say it would mean less power for European institutions and more for 
national parliaments.

Which is fair enough, but it is not actually about increasing 
democracy in the EU as such.

National leaders may occasionally get irritated by the commission's 
ideas, but in the end the commission are their servants, if sometimes 
ones with Jeeves-like powers. National leaders wouldn't dream of 
giving them more legitimacy.

The same goes for a foreign affairs chief or president of the 
council. It is because Mr Ganley has supported an elected president 
that he has had little luck striking a deal with traditional 
conservatives. It would transform the EU, but maybe not in a way 
traditional Eurosceptics would relish.
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POLITICS HOME 10.3.09
The World at One, Radio 4 at 13:27
Ganley: Libertas raising money in many EU member states

Declan Ganley, Libertas founder

Mr Ganley said that democracy is broken in Brussels, and dismissed 
suggestions that Libertas was a rich man's pursuit, saying much of 
the funding for the party comes from small donations dfrom across the 
EU.

"The primary interest and the thing most broken in Brussels is the 
matter of democracy.

"What we all agree on is accountable government is necessary. It's 
stunning to see how Brussels, through a sort of divide and conquer, 
has been able to stifle those voices."

He said money was being raised for the party through small donors, 
and added, "we are now raising money in many of the member states of 
the European Union.

"It's so important to get people to go out and participate. Making 
contributions is an important part of the democratic process."