Mark Welsh
Thanks Mike. I was wondering when you’d get around to this.
If you remember when we spoke about it we touched on the BOEN and, while you say it isn’t OWNED outright by Rothschild, wouldn’t you agree that Rothschild will have a massive interest in the B of E still through the BOEN?
After all, Rothschild and Rockefeller simply are the Banking kings behind this whole fiasco (having the same privately controlled Federal Reserve that basically toppled the first domino on this financial crisis) and they stay out of the limelight while Joe Public is led to believe it is all down to the fatcats - these fatcats are purely scapegoats. The sooner the public recognise this the better.
I STILL repeat the Asia Times article of May 2003. It is like, to me, a smoking gun with fingerprints all over it! Don’t you agree?
Mike, is there any way I can tap into all the people coming on this site simply to ask them if they would support a mass communication asking some simple basic questions of our government/parliament. I truly believe that such questions which cannot logically be answered, would if nothing else, expose these people for what they are.
They cannot ignore a mass communication. If they did then they are showing their hand anyhow and we can use this to show an even greater mass of people.
The battle needs to be from all angles. You can state the truth so many times but what would also add strength to the simple statement is cornering these people.
Thoughts?
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The Editor Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Rothschild absolutely has an interest in the Bank of England. Anyone can go to the Bank, have a look through the archives, and find the name of Rothschild on the list of past Bank directors.
As for BOEN, its activities are completely secret. Try getting your MP to ask a question about BOEN in Parliament.
The mass communication idea is a good one. Get yourself to the conference - we are working on this and other things. In the meantime, get people to contact us. The more the merrier. An email from them to me will get the ball rolling.
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apr 14th, 2009
Baron von Lotsov
The one essential thing that remains though is the voter in Britain still has a vote. That vote could get us out of the EU; it could reform the banking system and turn this country around. We have nuclear weapons, so no one will mess with us if we say we are serious about this.
The big weakness I see in all of this is that people get brainwashed and dumbed down, so they end up as automatons, and so the whole merry-go-round keeps on turning. If we can deal with the brainwashing then that is key. You can’t educate a brainwashed mind, it simply does not work. However you can let people know about this and then they will avoid the brainwashing and then they will educate themselves, tell others and then you stand a chance.
We already have the framework for an alternative government in place, but it needs people to back it. When the elections come the people will just get hypnotised to vote to keep the status quo in power. They are even putting mind-altering chemicals into the food now, e.g. Unilever’s new British research facility on tea. They tell us it promotes the brain into an alpha brainwave state that makes you more relaxed. Just add fluoride to the water and job done.
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Gluttened Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Add gluten, sugar, casein, aspartame, mono-sodium glutumate, genetically modified foods, hydrogenated fats and lord television to the ingredients (+ a mega dosage of electro magnetic interference from mobile phones, satellite etc) and it is clear we are experiencing chemical, biological and mental warfare on an unprecedented scale. This struggle is the defining point in our history as a species.
Peace be with you.
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Mark Welsh Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Gluttened, my problem with subscribing to that particular idea is that the elites are also susceptible. It doesn’t make sense therefore that they would carry out the same “warfare” on themselves does it?
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Chi0ne1 Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
They have holistic medicine. They have the technology to remove DU poison and other diseases from themselves. They instead give us “Western” medicine which is a poison in itself to only fight the symptoms instead of the disease.
apr 14th, 2009
Mark Welsh
Baron you are on the money with the brainwashed and dumbed down thing. I would never have believed (and still find it hard to believe) how conditioned and dumbed down so many of us are. I believe it could be the majority!!
Trying to get through to people (even just one) is a full time job. And if they aren’t brainwashed or dumb then they either witch off out of sheer apathy or they just won’t/can’t believe what you’re telling them EVEN with a mass of absolute factual evidence!
It’s truly scary how people are! I feel sometimes like I live in some kind mass conditioned “Twilight Zone”.
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LIZ Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 10:51 am
I totally agree! it becomes exhausting trying to get through to people. i becomes exhausting to constantly be on the recieving end of the masses who will stop at nothing to mock me, deride me, belittle me, and tell me i have “lost my mind”. how ironic, it is just that i have found my mind! They are the ones who have truly lost their own minds thanks to brainwashing left right and centre. For a while
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apr 15th, 2009
Revolution Harry
Whatever you plan to do you can count me in. I long ago came to the conclusion that the best chance of ‘waking people up’ to the NWO agenda was to expose the iniquity of the banking system. So much so that I resolved to do a video on the subject. I have to say it’s been a slog but I also managed to uncover the information you refer to in your post. What possible reason can there be for not allowing us to know who the shareholders of the BOEN are? Apart from the Rothschild I would assume the Queen has her fingers in the pie.
I’ve almost finished the script but there remains one question I haven’t answered to my satisfaction. Perhaps someone can help.
Two of the videos that inspired me to do more research on the subject of banking were ‘The Money Masters’ and ‘Money as Debt’. Both state that when banks create money for a loan they don’t simultaneously create the interest. The consequence being that there is never enough money in the system to pay all outstanding debts. Hence the need for economic growth or constant expansion of the money supply through more debt creation; the inevitable and eventual bust resulting in a significant number of people or businesses unable to pay their loans back. This position appears to be backed up by a quote from Belgian economist and former central banker, Bernard Lietaer, when he said:
“Money is created when banks lend it into existence. When a bank provides you with a $100,000 mortgage, it creates only the principal, which you spend and which then circulates in the economy. The bank expects you to pay back $200,000 over the next 20 years, but it doesn’t create the second $100,000 - the interest. Instead, the bank sends you out into the tough world to battle against everybody else to bring back the second $100,000.”
However another inspiration, G. Edward Griffin, author of ‘The Creatures From Jekyll Island’, states that this is not how things work. He says as the loan is being paid off a proportion of that is not extinguished but is retained by the bank as profit ie the interest. This then gets spent into the economy in some way. In this way the lender earns the necessary money from the general money supply now boosted by the banks profit on the loan. He makes the point that:
“… in many ways this is worse than the assumption that the bank doesn’t create the money for the interest payment as it is a form of modern serfdom in which the great mass of society works as indentured servants to a ruling class of financial nobility.”
My puzzle is that banks would not spend anything but a small part of their profit into the economy in the form of wages, building maintenance, new computer systems etc. The rest, as company profits, may be retained in their account. Most likely becoming the asset base for new loans via the fractional reserve system. Would this still count as being part of the money supply, or do the producers of the two videos have a (partial) point?
There is another question. If the money they create from nothing then lend out, is extinguished when it is paid back (with only the interest increasing the long term money supply) how does this work in regards to the national debt? I’m aware that this never gets repaid. Presumably because it’s in the banks interests in order for them to continue earning their interest on the loans. Does this mean that if the loans were to be paid back it would, in line with what Griffin suggests, be extinguished? I’ve become aware of many absurdities with regards to banking since I began my research but if this is true then it tops the lot. We ‘owe’ the banks over £1 trillion and climbing; money they largely created from nothing and that will be extinguished if it ever were to be repaid. Is this why the banks are only too happy to let the national debt climb to record levels? The higher the debt the more the interest payments.
Any help or advice gratefully received.
I’ll leave you with one more quote I found from historian Sir Arthur Bryant:
“The exercise of the right inherent in every sovereign state of creating and issuing a sufficiency of money to make financially possible what is physically possible and morally desirable, would enable as much real wealth to be brought into existence as, with its immense inventive and scientific potential, it is capable of making”.
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steviemurph Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
you should research bankruptcy laws..I think after 70 something years all debts are cancelled (although I have been getting mixed responses on this )..why then does our government continually run to the banks for more when the debt is cleared ?…Why as Aaronn Russo asked does our government with the ability to print money (HAH its a joke to call it money ) borrow it from banks instead..answer those questions and you will eventually come to only one logical conclusion..I will leave you to follow the trail yourself
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Adrian Peirson Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Not sure if this answers your question but when you boil it all down to absolute basics, since our money is not backed by Gold, it is Worthless paper.
Westminster Borrows this Worthless paper aT FULL FACE VALUE from the likes of Rothschild who Print it out of thin air, Westminster then forces us to Work and pay income tax to pay back this totally uneccessary loan.
Go easy on the Masses, they are not taught about money at school, it took me ages to realise too and the scale of this Treachery is almost beyond comprehension.
It is rather like asking a child if he believes his mummy would ever murder him, of course the answer is going to be no.
In our case though, our Parent ( Govt ( is doing exactly this, or at least enslaving us to totally unnecesarry loans through taxation.
This act alone Proves beyond any doubt that Westminster ( at least as far as Party Leadership is concerned ) is a charade, the Leadership of all three Parties are bought and paid for, Blair, Brown, Osborne are all Bilderberg atendees..
Even in the US, Ron paul says he still has Congressmen who ask him, is it true that our money is no longer backed by Gold.
Similarly in the UK, I doubt many MP’s realise what we all know.
We Borrow this money ( which the Banksters conjure up out of thin air ) by issuing Gilts, like so much of their evil, it is always hidden behind an extra layer to make the issue more complex, they know this of course, but if you ask yourself,
If our money is essentially worthless, then why Print the Gilts, why not Just Print the Money instead, then we wouldnt have to pay it back through our Income Tax.
I’m no economist but had we Printed ourselves EXACTLY the same amount of money as we had Borrowed over the Past decades, there would be no loans to pay back, No Govt Debt ( how much is it now our children owe ) and hence absolutely No Need for Income tax at all.
Essentially we could Print / Coin our own money, declare it legal tender and use it to pay the Police, the Armed Services, Nurses etc, they in turn would spend this in Supermarkets, restaurants, etc.
No loan to pay back, no Govt debt. no need for taxes.
It is no accident that Income tax came in at the same time as the Bof E was given its charter, here and in 1913 in the US.
Essentially, and in reality, we are enslaved. There is simply no need to pay income tax.
So it could work, and this ‘money’ would not have to be paid back, such a system is Not ideal because it means Banks, Govts can conjure it up out of thin air, it would require absolute transparency.
The best form of money is of course a precious metal based system. with this, Govts, nor Banks can manipulate the money supply for their own ends like they are doing now.
Money is thin air, westminster goes through the charade of borrowing it to enslave us to their Masters, the likes of Rockefeller, the Morgans etc.
The previous poster is correct, the bankers getting demonised now are in effect not the bad guys, they were allowed to take these risks, in fact even if they had made the Best decisions possible, the Banksters were always going to crash the system to bring us to our kness and usher in their New World Order ( based on the chinese model )
they are sacrificial lambs being slaughtered to make it look like Govt is on our side.
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Adrian Peirson Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Here is how the BofE has conspired with other Banks to syphon the Nations wealth ever upwards.
Firtst, the PRIVATE BofE lowers interest rates, the Other Banks then lend out Money
which is essentially conjured up out of thin air, at the Very best it is fractionally reserved
IE for every £1000 pound they lend out, they only have to actually have £100.
Then when enough people have been hooked on this thin air Credit, the Bof E and Govt say, oh deary me, look at the state of the economy, we shall have to increase interest rates.
Those who have overextended themselves and can no longer pay thet higher rates , have their assets seized, the Banks sell these assets off cheap at auction then use the money to buy up REAL Assets.
Or they Buy Gold, Silver Precious metals, you dont expect them to keep paper money do you, its worthless paper, that would be stupid.
Then just rinse and repeat until most of the Nations Wealth is syphoned up into the Offshore Vaults of a few Wealthy elites.
Boom and Bust.
Now you understand why gordon Brown swapped a 900Tonne Pile of our Gold for a Pile of Worthless paper Euros.
He was essentially handing it to his paymasters, after all who actually Prints the Euros out of thin air, the Offshore Central Banks, they have the Gold, we have the worthless IOU’s.
Ron Pauls Campaign for Liberty Youtube channel is worth Subscribing to and has a few Videos worth watching.
http://www.youtube.com/user/campaignforliberty
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apr 15th, 2009
Baron von Lotsov
Money equates to assets, and the psychological value placed on those assets. A lot of financial people are very mathematical, and so they will value stuff according to its utility. For example, a machine that makes twice as many widgets in an hour is more valuable than one that doesn’t. Then of course you have the other valuers of assets, the consumer, and they are not so mathematical. They will place high values on things that are not.
Anyway, the point being that the money supply should reflect the value of the assets it represents. Now we have a natural increase in overall value as science and technology make it possible to produce better, faster and stronger things much quicker. I think that traditionally this stands at about 2% per year. Some people say the answer is to back the currency by gold, because gold is a stable representation of value, but it is not possible to do this completely since gold is only a small fraction of the entire world’s assets. So you have to have some form of a fractional reserve system, and I do think that what is popularly put about on the Internet about money being created from nowhere is misleading.
It’s far more complex than that and economists have debated about this for centuries. Indeed some also talk about private banking as being wrong, but would you rather have a government do your banking for you? I somehow don’t think that you would, and it is because we then find ourselves asking for a socialist system. Private banks and all other private financial businesses are fine with one condition, and that condition is the most important thing of them all. There must be a lot of them, indeed so many that if one went bust there would not be any noticeable change in the overall market. What we must have is a free market, and we don’t have one of those at the moment, and everytime there is a merger it becomes less and less free. When Brown starts intervening and nationalising banks things can only get worse. (Remember the Labour 97 election song, translated from Orwellian to English.)
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apr 15th, 2009
Joe7000
I agree with Sankara: I am mad enough to think that AIR and WATER should be the things that back up any currency and not GOLD or GNP or GDP or money created from plastic.
Simply allocate a certain qubic amount of AIR and WATER to each person in a given country, region or even on a world scale: Lets say that everyone “owns” the asset known as “10 qubic feet of AIR and WATER”: we use this asset as a guarantee to pay back whatever we “borrow” from it in the form of whatever token of credit we decide upon (its all numbers anyway).
In order to draw upon this asset, we must promise to keep our own 10 cubic feet of AIR and WATER clean form any contamination: for example, if I cause my asset to diminish in quality or cause my neighbor’s asset to diminish in quality, my “drawing” power will diminish proportionately. If I completely destroy my allottment of AIR and WATER I will then become the property of the state until such time as it takes to restore the “cleaness” of my original allotted asset.
I am mad enough to think that with my “out-of-the-box” idea, there will be no inflation or deflation associated with AIR and WATER as a backing for monetary tokens. –jws
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apr 15th, 2009
ED BASELEY
The Rothschilds now only own 57% of the non FederalReserve according to sourc.es but The Royal Institute for International Affairs owns the CFR, Rockefeller paid for the CFR building right next to the Fed. Reserve.The Ford foundation and Carrnegie foundation with New York directors hyjacked the Interest and directed it to support the CFR. contrary to the founders.
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LIZ Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Also, the Rothchilds plan to buy out Canary Wharf later this year. Interesting…….
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Mark Welsh Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Really? I wonder if they’re thinking of taking a leaf out of the Larry Silverstein manual on “How to insure oneself against highly unlikely scenarios with astronomical odds of ever happening but…. “
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LIZ Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Yes, its true indeed, I will try and find the original article (or link to).
apr 15th, 2009
Steve Wright
NWO - Take note.
You’ve pushed too far. Now the questions begin from the great unwashed who have not been drinking the fluoridated Koo-AId. The Fabian turtle is moving too fast and we can see what’s been going on.
“I’m as mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore!.” - Peter Finch in the 1976 film ‘Network’.
“When people lose everything, they have nothing to lose - and then they lose it.” - Gerald Celente 2008
“Keep pushing baby, keep pushing……….as push back time is now here. The people will hang you from the street lamps as they wake up. And awakening they are……….” Steve Wright 2009 (Info Warrior)
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Mark Welsh Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Steve, Like the attitude man!
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Adrian Peirson Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Funny you should say that but :-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5dtpR10tTQ&feature=channel_page
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apr 15th, 2009
Joe Robertson
Great article … eye opening to see that it has become what the FED is in the US… End The Fed … Push for Exposing the FED with Ron Paul’s HR1207, joe
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apr 15th, 2009
Ian D
Thanks for your article Mike.
I say follow the money. In 1946 the Bank was not actually nationalised (as you indicated), but there was a stock swap! The shareholders of BOE turned in their shares, and in return were issued “Government Stock” that paid interest, in return and in addition to that they STILL kept 75% of the spoils of running the bank, from 1946, 1966 and even after 1998! It’s a sweet deal, because even though UK PLC is not exactly a desirable company to own these days because of ransacking at the hands of successive governments (directors), this stock paid a dividend, rain or shine:
From the BOE act of 1946:
1.
Transfer of Bank stock to Treasury.
— (1) On the appointed day —
(a)
the whole of the existing capital stock of the Bank (hereinafter referred to as “ Bank stock ” ) shall, by virtue of this section, be transferred, free of all trusts, liabilities and incumbrances, to such person as the Treasury may by order nominate, to be held by that person on behalf of the Treasury;
(b)
the Treasury shall issue, to the person who immediately before the appointed day is registered in the books of the Bank as the holder of any Bank stock, the equivalent amount of stock created by the Treasury for the purpose (hereinafter referred to as the “ Government stock ” ).
Voila, stock swap, otherwise known as “shell game” This way the Gov could claim that the BOE had been “nationalised”, because yes, the stock had been transferred to them, however the shareholders now had stock in the parent company in return! So now my question is, what percentage of the outstanding shares of UK PLC are held by these maggots, and how does it affect the way the directors vote?
Note that in the 1946 act, there is provision for a redemption “at par”. Now you might be thinking that means for cash. Actually I think it means swapping back for the original shares of BOE at that time (April 5th 1966 - anyone see a coincidence here?). However they could only do so having published intention to do so by having published intention in the London Gazette at least 3 months prior. Does anyone have the time/access/motivation to research the archives of the Gazette to find out if anyone did? If so, it would be a way to find out shareholdings…
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Mark Welsh Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
There is ONE SIMPLE WAY of finding this out. FORGET the research - DEMAND that the people of this country know the answer. Get enough signatures of enough people who KNOW what this all means and what it’s about and DEMAND our government come clean on this.
Why on EARTH does a bank (any bank anywhere) require partial documentations relating to shareholdings to come under the Official Secrets Act etc? It is PATENTLY ridiculous, deceptive and, you can be sure, for GOOD reason!
The problem is that not enough people even know this or recognise what it means. They HAVE to know and they HAVE to join up with us and DEMAND the answers. The Government tell us the B of E is “Publicly owned” and the Public think that means WE own it. It’s WAKE UP time!
As for the B of E now being like the Fed. It’s the other way around in reality. The Fed was built ON the fundamentals of how the B of E worked.
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apr 15th, 2009
AP Byrne
This article is bang on, the only problem it seems is that people still keep refering to “Money” when their is no such thing, its an illusion like pulling a rabbit from a hat, it is the greatest slight of hand ever concocted, and while we keep chasing the illusion we keep the “FRAUD” going by our actions we are the culprits, Fraud is Fraud end of story,
every inch of the British System supported by the public, has created mayhem world wide and is draped in the”Blood” of the Innocent in Irag, Afganistan, and world wide to create mayhem in the name of the British people, to support the “Fraudlent Bankers” the Arms Industry, this whole system which is built on corruption and aided and abetted by the pillars of society, but yet we remain silent and by our silence we condone it, every miniute and second while we remain on this planet and do not do something about it we are helping these monsters, we would all be asleep and most of the people out their are still if it was not for one of your greatest assets, who has been telling you about what is now happening to you for over 20 years David Icke who had to suffer ridicule for years from his own people for his honesty, and still continues the battle to keep exposing the gangsters, remember the Jack Booted front line soldiers are allready in position and you are looking at them everyday on your streets, your whole life is now under threat you are being eaten from the inside as well as the outside at every level, you have stayed asleep in still believeing that you were top dog and that everything was rosy in the garden and while the dream was being planted the gangsters were at work eating you alive while you were being distracted and running after the illusion of wealth, grandeur, which was pushing you further and further into their clutches, and now they have you where they want you watch will happen next because if you do not wake up you will be destroyed, and try asking the Jack Booted front line who will come for you to stop and then see what his reply will be
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apr 15th, 2009
RKelly-"Biloxi"
Old article now, but relevant none the less:
http://henryckliu.com/page178.html
HENRY CK LIU:
“… The invasive dominance of monetarism in macroeconomics has been total ever since central bankers, led by Alan Greenspan, who from 1987 to 2006 was Chairman of the Board of Governors of the US Federal Reserve, the head of the global central banking snake by virtue of dollar hegemony, embraced the counterfactual conclusion of Milton Friedman that monetarist measures by the central bank can perpetuate the boom phase the business cycle indefinitely, banishing the bust phase from finance capitalism altogether. Going beyond Friedman, Greenspan asserted that a good central bank could perform monetary miracle by simply adding liquidity to maintain a booming financial market by easing quantitatively at the slightest hint of market correction, ignoring the fundamental law of finance that if liquidity is exploited to manipulate excess debt as phantom equity on a global scale, liquidity can act as a flammable agent to turn a simple localized credit crunch into a systemic fire storm. …
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Enufs Enuf Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
LEST WE FORGET - (with my emphases**):
Posted: 2006-02-02 00:15:55+05:30 IST
Updated: Feb 02, 2006 at 0015 hrs IST
GREENSPAN TO ADVISE BROWN ON GLOBAL ECONOMY
“London, Feb 1 (2006): Newly retired US Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan has agreed to be honorary adviser to British finance minister Gordon Brown on
global economic change, **
the Treasury said on Wednesday. Greenspan, who stepped down on Tuesday after nearly 19 years of running the US central bank, has long enjoyed a close professional relationship with Chancellor of the Exchequer Brown.
“I am delighted that Dr Greenspan has agreed to be honorary adviser. His advice on issues relating to
global economic change**
will be much appreciated,” said Brown. In December, the British finance minister hosted a special meeting of Group of Seven finance ministers and central bankers in London to pay tribute to Greenspan whom he has long revered as
“the rock of stability upon which today’s global economy is built.” ** ”
—Reuters
http://www.financialexpress.com/news/greenspan-to-advise-uks-brown-on-global-economy/149637/
Since the 19th Century, the Rothschilds have owned Reuters too and it’s said that they acquired Associated Press within the last 20 years. Of course, they are also ‘Keepers of the Vatican Purse’ which along with their ‘links’ to the Fed and the BoE pretty much provides the ‘joinder’ imo. Oh, and don’t forget Veolia who have taken over all those council refuse contracts for 25 years - that’s Rothschild too!
“Where there’s muck, there’s brass” as the old saying goes.
Here’s a terrific 16 part ‘all time classic’ expose of the Illuminati and CFR from Myron Fagan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Uqn09DUPU
Thanks for another brilliant article Mike and for the chance to ’sound off’ amongst like minds.
The REAL PIRATES are the ones who have hijacked ‘the system’ - you know, the ones we pay our taxes to to supposedly have our best interests at heart…….sigh
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Mark Welsh Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Re Greenspan, Soros and all the other “great” investors who we admire for their ability to beat the market:
Paulson & Co. is run by John Paulson. His hedge fund has generated massive returns over the past two years, as he bet against financials and all things subprime. One of his funds was even up 589%. Most recently, he has profited by shorting U.K. banks.
A hedge fund is an investment fund open to a limited range of investors that is permitted by regulators to undertake a wider range of investment and trading activities than other investment funds and pays a performance fee to its investment manager.
As the name implies, hedge funds often seek to offset potential losses in the principal markets they invest in by hedging their investments using a variety of methods, most notably short selling.
And get this:
Hedge funds are typically open only to a limited range of professional or wealthy investors. This provides them with an exemption in many jurisdictions from regulations governing short selling, derivative contracts, leverage, fee structures and the liquidity of interests in the fund.
Now look at the Paulson & Co website. It has moved BUT read what the page says.
Why all the secrecy? Why are such funds limited to certain investors? We’ll always be told it’s due to the risk involved and they are protecting us right? LOL
So why are there Casinos everywhere?
It’s because these funds are the ones that transfer the wealth of the working man and the middle classes to those with the mass of wealth and the wish to further increase that wealth while removing it from you and I. It is for those who are advised it is now time to have a financial meltdown.
You just need to look at the names involved and ask yourself the question “How did they know to take these immense risks when noone else was meant to have known?
Just keep that question in your head and don’t let ANYONE tell you they’re just lucky and have wonderful computer and mathematical models. That is BULLSH*T and you know better than that.
It’s because those in the know, know. And they are screwing us!
Well think of this. When Alan Greenspan is on board from Jan 2008 while he was Fed Reserve chairman up until 2006, guess what info he’ll have at his fingertips? And you can just guess the people who will be investing in these funds right? Absolute knowledge of the impending disaster before them. Wouldn’t YOU short the subprimes and the banks?
http://www.paulsonco.com/logon.asp
Paulson & Co. Inc. Appoints Alan Greenspan as Member of Advisory Board
01/15/2008
Paulson & Co. Inc. announced its retention of Dr. Alan Greenspan, former chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, as a member of its advisory board. Dr. Greenspan will provide ongoing advice to Paulson’s investment management team by sharing his perspective on issues affecting the financial markets. This will be an exclusive arrangement, insofar as Dr. Greenspan will not enter into a similar consulting arrangement with any other hedge fund while he is working with Paulson & Co. Inc. Dr. Greenspan served as Chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve Board for 18 years, from 1987 until 2006 over four presidential administrations.
ALL RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOUR VERY EYES.
100% CRIMINALS.
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apr 15th, 2009
harry
Do you not source aarticles on this website
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apr 15th, 2009
Mark Welsh
Not Bank of England BUT a view of the Bank of Iceland and the connections:
David Oddsson
During his almost 14 years as Prime Minister, Davíð became acquainted with, or friend of, many Western leaders, including Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Václav Klaus and Silvio Berlusconi. He has occasionally attended the meetings of the Bilderberg Group, and he has read a paper to the Mont Pelerin Society. But he only served as Minister of Foreign Affairs for one year. In the autumn of 2005, Davíð announced that he would leave politics. He said that he felt that the time had come for a new generation to take over.
Bilderberg Group: David Oddsson - Committee of Ministers, Council of Europe 2005
In October 2005, Davíð was appointed the Governor of the Central Bank of Iceland. Following the collapse of the Icelandic banking system in the autumn of 2008, the nation was forced to ask for financial help from the International Monetary Fund and friendly nations. The economic policy driven by the Independence Party, based on market liberalisation and privatisation, is widely regarded as responsible for the collapse. Consequently, there were public calls for his dismissal. Following protests outside the Central Bank, the new Prime Minister Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir requested that Davíð and his two fellow governors resign. He refused this request but on February 26th, 2009, following changes to the laws concerning the Central Bank, Davíð was replaced by the Norwegian economist Svein Harald Øygard.
Look here and you will see that the Icelandic banks piled on their issues from guess when? 2003 onwards (see Graph 1).
http://www.economist.com/world/europe/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12762027
The following was written by a writer with access to inside information shortly before Oddsson started entering Bilderberg meetings:
”Can you imagine what will happen if Los Angeles is hit with a 9.0 quake, New York City is destroyed by a terrorist-planted atomic bomb, World War III breaks out in the Middle East, the banks and the stock markets collapse, Extraterrestrials land on the White House lawn, food disappears from the markets, some people disappear, the Messiah presents himself to the world, and all in a very short period of time ? Can you imagine ? The world power structure can, and will if necessary, make some or all of those things happen to bring about the New World Order.”
p. 177 – 178 “Behold a pale horse” by M. William Cooper, 1990
Now the banks, stock market and currency of Iceland have collapsed and the food supply for the winter is in no way secured. The name of the World Power structure is – Bilderberg. What a coincidence that Oddsson was a long time member before all those troubles started.
Each and every little Bilderberg influence should be extracted from David Oddsson to give a good indication of why what happened happened.
• Davíð Oddsson (Bilderberg Conference attendee dates confirmed 1987, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1997, 1999), Prime Minister of Iceland (1991 - 2004), chairman of the board of the Central Bank of Iceland since 2005.
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apr 15th, 2009
Mark Welsh
Interesting article on Goldman Sachs:
http://www.moneymorning.com/2009/04/15/goldman-sachs-share-offering/
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apr 15th, 2009
TSGordon
Always looking for creative ways around the ‘catch 22,’ so, whadda-bout accepting the idea of a global currency and then refusing to use it in practice? Take the new money and stuff it down the throats of those who have, and pile it deep on their properties so as nothing will grow, and the sun don’t shine through their windows…Sound like fun? -Then, we go back to using the old money, but with a fixed rate of internationl exchange.
Either way, the EU is not a workable model and the media that says it is needs to be terminated in the same way. Since only 1% own 90% of the world’s assets, nothing can stop the masses from recaliming their properties under the conditions of a global crash. –Meaning, full (banking) ‘transparency’ is required for the ‘flushing-out’ phase, as most of the tax payers haven’t a clue how to sniff out a de Rothschild, or when to use a silver-bullet…
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Mark Welsh Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Can someone answer this question in a nutshell? Just make it really simple for now:
What is the one major fear behind inflating a currency? i.e. printing more of it.
What is the single most fundamental issue countries/governments worry about in this instance?
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apr 15th, 2009
Paul
The “British Empire” was really the “rothschild Empire” when you examine the facts.
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Mark Welsh Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Pretty much…yes. And how did they achieve it? Hard graft? LOL
No. Corruption and crime. Yet we allow them to sit there as the elite of society all wishing to be them. I don’t. I’d just wish to crush them. They are humanity’s cancer.
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apr 15th, 2009
Adrian Peirson
Oh and by the Way, now that they have consolidated their wealth, it is widely believed they intend culling 80& of the Worlds Population, either through wars and or the Deliberate release of Biological weapons on major cities.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZRw9y8ZAAI
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=bird+flu+contaminated+vaccine&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=
Remember the Two French students Brutally murdered in london, it is believed these students were French Biochemists who had discovered that the Bird flu in the UK was a Weaponised variant, IE made in a Laboratory Not a natural flu virus.
Plenty of google info on this.
Remember, Westminster does not want us to be able to feed ourselves, the EU want all nations to be interdependant, this is why our fishing has been destroyed, our oil reserves depleted and our farming destroyed, the Foot and mouth was shown to be a variant that came from a Govt Laboratory.
Yes they are quite insane and will stop at nothing.
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Nick Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
I agree that the 2 most recent FMD outbreaks 2001/2007 were riddled with deceit & lies. There were cover ups after cover ups. I lived in the epi centre of the 2001 fiasco. I could write a book about it!
However the virus was the Pan Asian O Type a type already routinely found in other areas around the world and NOT exclusively found in a lab.
That does not mean that it could not have been released from a laboratory however. The IAH, Pirbright in Surrey would be carrying this virus within their labs. routinely as they attempt to produce a vaccination, which incidentally they had long before the 2001 outbreak.
Much easier to kill millions of animals at the bequest of the EU!
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apr 15th, 2009
Baron von Lotsov
“Either way, the EU is not a workable model and the media that says it is needs to be terminated in the same way.”
Seriously, I’m beginning to notice the media have stopped talking about the EU in this way. Many papers are now actively opposing it and the BBC tends to keep its gob shut about it most of the time, for fear of rubbing people up the wrong way. There is a distinct mood of anger against the EU in this country, and the BBC are intelligent enough not to pour petrol on that fire, so they brush it under the carpet most of the time now. Instead they like to put trivia on their front page to create a distraction. Meanwhile the EU machine carries on turning at ever increasing speeds. We will leave eventually, and that time is getting closer.
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apr 15th, 2009
andre
Some of your facts are true but you forget a very important fact about the bank of england and that is that it is part of the Rothshild empire since the batle of waterloo . AT the time the Rothshild financed the french and the british empires . the Rothshilds spread a false rumour stating that the french had won the battle a full 24 hrs before wellington s own courier . that event created mass panick in the stock exchange . Nathan mayer Rothshild orderd his men to sell all the bounds that made all the other traders belive that the british lost the war so they started selling franticaly. therefore the bounds plummeted in value which was when nathan mayer Rothchild discretly ordred his men to purchase all the bounds they could lay there hands on. when the new finaly came that the french had lost the war the bounds whent up in value to a much higher value than before the war leaving rothshild with a return of approximately 20 to 1 on his investment. this gave the rothshild family total control of the british economy now the financial center of the world and forced England to create the new bank of England which they now control. you can find all this info and more about the rothshild on the jew watch news.com website.
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apr 15th, 2009
cheesy
The trouble is that much of this is so complicated and hard to grasp that it is above many ordinary peoples’ heads. They might even think like many Icelandic people - well our curency is rubbish now so let’s join the euro and have that instead.
http://www.monetaryreform.org
Dr Hamlyn dedicated a great deal of time to trying to explain our monetary system so that ordinary people could understand it better.
If he had not passed away I feel sure he would have taken an interest in the B C Group. His site continues and is well worth a look.
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apr 15th, 2009
Chi0ne1
Thesis/antithesis/synthesis
“east” and “west” are an illusion.
The Rothschilds, Rockefellers and the rest of the 13 bloodline families are only the modern version of the sociopathic elite. Their beginnings go back to Cain, Ham(Naamah), Canaanites, Esau, Dan, etc. Esau married into Ishmael’s line(his daughter), Hittites, Hivites, Spanish(Spanish Edomites/Sephardic), Khazars(Ashkenazi), and other middle eastern nations.
The elite either own it or have infiltrated it. Any fighting among the political “leaders”, religious “leaders”, MSM, etc is only an illusion. The only ones fighting are the masses and they are fighting each other instead of the problem. The masses are like western medicine attacking the symptom instead of the disease. Another problem with the masses is that they are unable to agree upon what the disease is. As long as the masses stay divided the elite will continue to win.
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