Interesting speculation from Conway, who is generally sound though
perhaps usually more suited to accurate reportage than forecasting !
Soros is always around when things are sticky for Britain. He makes
money out of it!
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Gearing up for a V8 recovery?
Posted By: Edmund Conway Economics Editor
In the good old days recessions were easily categorised into one of
four capital letters, or so the economists tell us.
The optimists hope for a V-shaped recovery, with economic growth
plunging deep into negative territory before bouncing healthily back,
and then it's full steam ahead. There's the U-shaped recovery, which
involves a more gradual decline in growth, followed by a gradual
improvement in the following years. The realists usually anticipate a
W-shape, where the economy appears to bounce back briefly, with this
followed by a further slide into recession and misery before the true
recovery eventually arrives. The real pessimists are more likely to
predict an L-shaped recovery - although recovery is the wrong word,
since as the shape of the letter implies this means that once the
economy hits rock bottom it stagnates for many years before.
If you look at the forecasts from both the Bank of England and the
Treasury they expect a V-shaped recovery; Lord of the Bears Nouriel
Roubini reckons he's seen the future and it's L-shaped.
All of which brings us to George Soros and his appearance on TV this
morning. The billionaire investor has dispensed with letters entirely
and is predicting a recovery which instead looks rather like an
"inverted square root sign" (so turn this à upside down). This is not
dissimilar to what happened in the 1930s - a brief bump of recovery
followed by another lurch downwards and then some years of not much
at all. He has been predicting a slide of these proportions for some
time, and I assume that he also has some sizeable trading positions
that reflect this, which is worth bearing in mind.
But his point - that this downturn is looking just about as miserable
as the 1930s - is an important one. For lest one forgets the very
early 1930s were remarkable for including a series of bounces and
moments of optimism that persuaded many that the recession would be
over by Christmas. It didn't feel like the Great Depression until
much later. On this point I would urge everyone to read Barry
Eichengreen's latest essay which warns that this could actually end
up being worse than the Great Depression.
One of the more hopeful points made by Eichengreen is that the
authorities - monetary and fiscal - have thrown far more than their
1930s counterparts at the problem: slashing interest rates and
embarking on quantitative easing; cutting taxes and hiking spending.
This might provide one with hope that policy could counterbalance the
depression. Indeed, there are many in the corridors of power on both
sides of the Atlantic who fear that so much stimulus has been pumped
into the economy that before we know it we have a massive explosion
of growth and inflation that would then take years to bring back
under control. [Readers will know that this is what I have been
predicting for some weeks now. though not willing to put a date on
this occurrence -cs]
This is what policymakers are privately calling a "V8 recovery" - in
other words a supercharged V-shaped recovery (like a supercharged car
engine). In some senses they would prefer this to an L-shaped slump,
since as the experience of Japan has shown we have little experience
of being to turn those around. But they are similarly aware that
inflation, while no doubt familiar, is hardly an easy beast to tame.
Certainly the UK and US have done about everything in their power to
turn us in the V8 rather than inverted square root direction, and the
devaluation in sterling since last year will certainly contribute.
But no-one really knows what power these policies have in the face of
such a significant debt-based slump. And as for Europe, where
interest rates are still being kept higher than they ought to be,
while some nations resist spending anything to bide them through the
downturn, that square root symbol is looking all the more threatening.
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ECONOMIC ÔShortsÕ 8.4.09
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=Tankers anchor off Devon waiting for oil prices to rise
Almost a dozen oil tankers carrying millions of litres of oil and gas
have anchored off the British coast because the cargo's owners are
waiting for prices to rise. (Torbay ship suppliers are doing good
trade!)
=[Richard Fletcher warns Darling NOT to repeat his ÔclangerÕ of last
year when he caused the house market to stop dead ion its tracks as
buyers waited for the promised Stamp Duty cut. He may be too late
in his warning as the Treasury has ÔspunÕ the story of a coming £2000
Ôscrap a bangerÕ payment when buying a new car. Result ? Car sales
hit a record low last month. ] (not on line) [The Sun without its
thinking cap on today urges the £2000 bounty! -cs]
Wednesday, 8 April 2009
Posted by Britannia Radio at 16:25