Monday, 20 April 2009

Monday, April 20, 2009

Hitchens, Dale & Vaizey on Video

Iain Dale 2:03 PM

A couple of weeks ago I took part in a panel discussion at the Oxford Literary Festival with Ed Vaizey and Peter Hitchens. The topic for the session was: WHAT'S THE BIG TORY IDEA? The whole thing has now been put on Youtube by the organisers, the Orwell Prize. Click on the links below.

Introduction by Ben Wright & Speech by Ed Vaizey
Peter Hitchens Speech
Iain Dale Speech

Discussion Part 1 - Dale attacks Hitchens who hits back
Discussion Part 2 - Vaizey on a more Tory agenda & Dale on why people go into politics
Q & A Part 1 - Tory schools policy, localism & Europe, Terrorism & civil liberties
Q & A Part 2 - Civil liberties - has it dropped down the Tory agenda?
Q & A Part 3 - Universities & vocational education. Dale & Vaizey disagree...
Q & A Part 4 - Climate change, a hung parliament, leadership & optimism.

I wrote about the event 
HERE, and was fairly critical of Peter Hitchens' approach to the debate. Peter has sent me the following email, which I am happy to publish. Watch the videos and make your own mind up!


My difficulty with Iain's account of the Oxford Orwell debate is this. What I would really appreciate would be a serious Tory loyalist reply to my criticisms, which are I think quite clear, rather than the misrepresentation of my views and suggestions that my motives are cynical or based upon spite.

I do not say , and have never said (because I do not believe it) , that the Tories lost the last three elections because they were not conservative enough. They lost them because they were the Tories, and beyond rescue.

They still are beyond rescue. As it happens their manifestoes were not specially conservative in any of the last three elections, but I am not sure how much difference this made to the outcome. What is clear is that they now believe their future lies in accepting New Labour's social, moral, cultural( and economic) positions.

Nor do I say that all politicians are careerists. However, I do say that those who pursue office without principle are careerists, and that when or if they get office, they will not be in power. I regard this as a statement of observable fact, not of opinion.

My motivations are not personal, nor the result of bitterness. I am unwounded by my wholly predictable and expected failure to win the Tory nomination for Kensington and Chelsea nearly ten years ago, and in fact remained a member of the Tory Party for some years afterwards. Nor am I a Trotskyist sleeper. My motivations, like those of Iain Dale, are based on a desire to help my country.

I am not thoughtless or destructive for destruction's sake. My prescriptions for national reform are clear from my books (which few of my critics have read, though they have read hostile and mendacious reviews of them) and from my many writings. My conclusion, that the Tory Party is an obstacle to political conservatism in this country, is further explored in my next book, to be published on 5th May, 'The Broken Compass'. Please read it.

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Joke of the Day

Iain Dale 11:57 AM

Heard on the Jon Gaunt Suntalk show...

Q: What's the difference between Alan Shearer and Newcastle United?
A: Alan Shearer will be on Match of the Day next season.

Boom Boom.

LabourHome Attacks Labour General Secretary

Iain Dale 11:51 AM

LabourHome, in the guise of Alex Hilton, has launched a blistering attack on the Labour Party General Secretary, Ray Collins. Bearing in mind that Alex is a Labour PPC (Chelsea & Fulham), it's a fairly brave thing to do.
Not only is Ray Collins' judgement in question after inviting Derek Draper to be the party's New Media adviser, to disastrous effect, but allegations have surfaced that he may have been more aware of Red Rag than he first admitted.

Furthermore, Collins has been shown to be more in the pocket of Unite's Charlie Whelan than at first imagined; though he was always the Whelan candidate for General Secretary, backed by Gordon Brown himself, when most members expected Mike Griffiths to be appointed to the position.

So he owes too much to Whelan to confront him and he has too little credibility to confront the blairite grouping. But still; there's a Labour seat that needs a candidate and which really could be lost in the event of a protracted and divisive row after the selection is over. But Collins can't institute an investigation against the candidates because his tenure wouldn't survive the backlash from these powerful factions.

Read the whole blogpost 
HERE.