Monday 23 November 2009



 Cameron caves in on EU!

Where has The Sun been?  I carried this story 3 days ago (“Cameron gives the game away -----). and I got it from the Guardian.  Now EUReferendum blog has it this morning!!   (The latter has got its information from UKIP it seems - a most unreliable source!)

As I said at the time - pardon the repetition!  - ---[gives the game away ---]  In more senses than one.  This quote below from Cameron is about as useless as you can get but nevertheless it remains about the only thing Cameron has said on the subject for months.  This means quite clearly that all he will do is  politely ask the EU to give him a few powers back and,  when as they say (as they will)  ‘No’,  that’ll be the end of the matter and we’ll be betrayed again. 

But latterly the blog has been resolute in only one thing - namely we should all lie down, let our tummies be tickled by the EU and get to like it while the shackles are tightened around us.    If that were the case one wonders why the blog bothers to go on day after day moaning about the inevitable.  

As long as there’s life, there’s always a hope!  And as long as there are people resolutely prepared to fight to put a spoke in the juggernaut’s wheels, to take advantage of any perceived weaknesses, and to exploit all public grievances here and abroad we should reject such facile defeatism.   Think Stuart Wheeler, Think the Irish, Think the euro-elections as a way of getting at the Cameroons.   The possibilities are endless. 

Christina


THE SUN    6.6.08

Cameron admits referendum woe

By DAVID WOODING, Whitehall Editor

DAVID Cameron has admitted he may never be able to fulfil his promise of a referendum on Europe.

The Tory leader warned Labour could have signed away power to Brussels BEFORE he gets into 10 Downing Street.

He says it would then be too late to throw the changes into reverse.
Gordon Brown wants the EU Treaty, which surrenders swathes of power to Brussels, to be rushed through Parliament before the election in 18 months to two years.

Peers will attempt to delay the PM’s handover in a series of crucial votes in the Lords next week.

But Mr Cameron admitted it would be "almost impossible" to have a referendum if it was already law in the UK and the rest of the EU.

He told an audience in Harlow, Essex: "We may have to say, well look, we’re not happy with this situation, here are some of the powers we’d like to have back.
"But we can’t give you that referendum on the Lisbon Treaty because it’s already been put in place across the rest of Europe."
Tory peers’ leader Lord Strathclyde vowed yesterday to force the Government to "think again" over its broken manifesto promise to hold a referendum.

He said: "Trust in politics is very low. Many people feel betrayed that they were promised a vote by all parties but Labour and the Lib Dems have since broken their word.
"No major transfer of power should be made without the prior approval of the British people."

EUREFERENDUM Blog   7.6.08

Hope there is none!

Predictably, UKIP is making hay of it – the story that first appeared   in The Sun yesterday [Oh no it didn’t. Guardian first , and me second days ago! -cs] and now also finds its way into The Daily Telegraph.

In both, the text is very similar (which says something about the way the DT is going) having David Cameron admitting that he may never be able to fulfil his promise of a referendum on Europe. Says The Sun, the "Tory leader warned Labour could have signed away power to Brussels BEFORE he gets into 10 Downing Street," and, "He says it would then be too late to throw the changes into reverse."

He was, apparently, speaking to an audience in Harlow, Essex (part of his programme of touring marginal constituencies) when we [sic! ‘he?‘ -cs] was asked the dreaded "R" question. Then he admitted it would be "almost impossible" to have a referendum if it was already law in the UK and the rest of the EU. "We may have to say, well look, we're not happy with this situation, here are some of the powers we'd like to have back," he said, "But we can’t give you that referendum on the Lisbon Treaty because it's already been put in place across the rest of Europe." 

Actually, this comes as little surprise. Previously, Cameron and William Hague have consistently refused to answer the question and, the last time he was tackled on it Cameron dismissed such a scenario [of holding a post-ratification referendum] as "hypothetical". But, in a private word with Adam Bolton of Sky News he then went on to say that: "If we can hold a referendum at the next election, we will".

Now we know for sure what that sentence means: the Boy has come to the conclusion that "we can't". Now that the treaty ratification is close to its final stage, his earlier evasions are no longer tenable, he has come out in the open and said it.

Bizarrely, the Boy is still holding onto his fig-leaf that he could still try to claw back some powers from Brussels – most notably social policy – but, here again, textual analysis suggests that this is unlikely, hence the use of the conditional in his response: "We may have to say … here are some of the powers we'd like to have back".

In any case, the inconsistency of this statement is self evident: we can't have a referendum because the treaty would be "… already law in the UK and the rest of the EU", yet he can go to the "colleagues" and ask for some power back, even though they are "… already law in the UK and the rest of the EU".

In an earlier post, I wrote that "Euroscepticism is dead". In the first of my essays on that theme, I then wrote that, "…in the foreseeable future …there is no prospect whatsoever of the UK leaving the EU. I see no likelihood of a newly elected Conservative government seeking to do this. To that extent, I thus wrote, "euroscepticism is dead. It is a movement without an achievable goal …".

And the reason why our goal is not achievable is precisely because, as I noted, "it is to the Conservatives that we must turn ...". "Hope there is none," I concluded. 

Cameron, in what should now be termed his "Harlow declaration" has simply confirmed what we always suspected of him. His new government, when it comes, will roll over and accept the status quo. Then, at the first opportunity, Cameron will "park" the EU issue. He has absolutely no intention of doing anything that might even slightly rock the boat.
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