Dilbert: "We people are smarter than we look"
Dogbert: "How hard can that be, really?"
COMMENT: "TROLL" THREAD
Nevertheless, amongst the number is a goodly proportion of what could fairly be labelled "trolls", the nature and behaviour of which have been fully characterised, and discussed on a number of blogs, such ashere and here.
The latter piece, headed whimsically, "How to be an Internet troll", starts with probably the most accurate and devastating definition – although there are many more. A troll, it says, is like the scum of the Internet:The purpose of his existence is to challenge the hero and play pest / spoilsport / critic / villain / supervillain by constantly attempting to discredit, rubbish and criticise all of the hero's attempts. To be a troll, you need not have any argument or merit, just a string of abuses targeted towards your object of obsession does the trick, and gets you noticed. All a troll needs is attention. And, you should get it no matter what it takes.
Having tracked the Booker column comments to explore the phenomenon in more detail – and play with ideas for their containment – one notes that there is a particular type of troll emerging – the "political" troll, and for them the key word in the definition is "challenge".
The troll takes as its starting point that the author of the piece to which it is responding is wrong, that the piece should never have been published, and that it is his sacred obligation to address these defects, and warn off all readers who might otherwise be influenced by it. That, in effect, defines the troll – it opposes the premise being offered and has taken it upon itself to correct or negate it.
To achieve these ends, the troll will adopt a number of techniques and characteristics, the most potent of the latter being sheer persistence. It is always there, always ready to post, always ready to challenge unwary supporters, it will normally be able to wear down casual visitors, or frighten them off with the intensity of their peremptory demands.
Some identify in troll behaviour the evidence of Alinsky tactics, which is unsurprising and most trolls appear to be of a left wing or "progressive" demeanour, and have wide experience of these tactics. Others seem to pick up the principle intuitively.
In detail, one sees the tactics as primarily those of declamation and challenge. The writer (i.e., Booker or Dellers) will be accused of getting it wrong, of misunderstanding "the science", distorting it (always deliberately) and/or of missing out key details (which the troll deems important). This will invariably be served up in an insolent and offensive manner, and then the battle starts.
Anyone incautious enough to mount a defence gets picked apart. References or "proofs" are demanded, any omission - real or imagined - is challenged, and even the slightest error - again real or imagined - is picked upon mercilessly. But this is a "game" that cannot be won. If the challenge is seen off, with a successful counter-argument, the troll ignores it, waits a while, and then repeats the same challenge or assertion, unchanged, ready to start all over again.
Since several people might join in, some trolls delight in picking up differences and inconsistencies - real or imagined, it matters not - in the arguments, and setting them against each other. Other trolls simply turn the arguments round, adopt them and repeat them back.
As a result, some say that the trolls should be ignored. You can't win - so "don't feed to trolls". Leave them to themselves and they will go away. But the "political" trolls do not. Imbued as they are with almost missionary zeal, they will disrupt a comments thread, dominate it and eventually take it over. That is their aim.
Does that matter, still others ask. I have an open mind on this. I am not sure. Thus, this is a ranging piece, to open a proper discussion and see where we go. But the non-PC picture sets the tone ... you can already see the horror on their faces and the Moonbat scribbling away! We have lost the moral high ground, they will say. But, as Dellers might say, if you can't beat them, the least you can do is annoy them.
That, of course, begs the question of what you achieve by this, but there is obviously some form of "prize" at stake, as the trolls invest a huge amount of time and energy in seeking to dominate comments and forums. They must think it is worth it.
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Further to our report earlier today, the Voice of Russia tells us that the Krasin and Admiral Makarovhave failed to tow the ice-trapped Sodruzhestvo out of thick ice at first go today. According to Fishery Minister Andrei Krainy, the tow ropes broke, so the rescue effort will have to be repeated.
Why are we not surprised?
COMMENT: OKHOTSK SEA CRISIS
The Daily Mail is running a piece telling us how "millions of hard-pressed families are being further squeezed by punishing rises in fuel bills and food prices".
The tenor of the article is that you must look to the "energy giants" for the reason why fuel prices are increasing, the story lead being focused on E.ON, the "German-owned supplier", which is putting up electricity tariffs by 9 percent and gas by 3 percent. This will add an average of £62 to annual dual fuel bills for 4.3 million customers.
This is where it all gets very difficult. Internationally, the trend for gas prices is downwards, but in the UK, retail customers are being charged more and more. Some of that is undoubtedly due to green taxes, levies and other imposts. An amount is due to the need to build investment capital to expand and renew the production and distribution systems – although costs there are inflated by greenery.
Doubtless, an amount is also due to corporate greed, and the ability of semi-formal cartel status of the energy suppliers which allow them to rig prices, on top of a weak regulator which is happy to see the confusion as a cover for the rising cost of greenery, which it supports.
There are other factors, not least that the foreign-owned companies, which charge less for their supplies on their home market, over-charge British consumers, in this more "liberal" market, in order to recoup losses.
Thus, we end up paying more for energy than virtually any other consumer in Europe (and the developed world). No one knows why, and even the experts disagree. Different sections of the media have different explanations, but all are quite happy to use "corporate greed" to hide the cost of the greenery.
The outcome, therefore, is that we not only get fleeced – we know not precisely who is doing the fleecing and why, and thus know not who specifically to blame. At the top of the dung hill, though, is the government – with that odious creature Huhne nominally in charge. That is as good a place as any to start.
But that alone gets us nowhere. Tomorrow there will be a by-election in Oldham and Saddleworth, to appoint an MP as a replacement for the disgraced Labour MP, who broke the rules. Chances are, the electorate will go for another Labour MPs.
And today also, the Labour MP for Barnsley agreed to resign, after being caught with his hands in the till. In due course, there will be a by-election and, in due course, another MP will be elected. It will be a Labour MP – I can guarantee you that.
Therein is the heart of the problem. We are served by a bunch of crooks, gathered together in a party structure which is long past the sell-by date. Yet, at each election, the sheeple come out – albeit in reducing numbers – to vote them back in.
Yet, these same sheeple will be there amongst the rest of us, complaining about energy bills, and not one will join up the dots. We are the authors of our own decline.
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But, as a reader asks, "Who polices a Police demonstration? Who provides the brutality?" Profound questions indeed ... one supposes they can beat each other up ... and then fine a few more motorists to jack up the income (shucks, the government gets that now ... you can see why the poor plods are confused).
COMMENT: "BOBBIES" THREAD
Yesterday, the Russians were talking about the rescue operation moving into the final, crucial stage, as the combined force of the two biggest icebreakers in the region moved in to try to extract the 32,000-ton Sodruzhestvo (pictured) from ice captivity in the Okhotsk Sea.
The latest report informs us that the icebreakers Krasin and the Admiral Makarov have in fact reached the Sodruzhestvo, now confirmed with 348 crew members on board, and have started to lead her out to free waters. The route has been carefully planned, after extensive reconnaissance by helicopter. The pressure is on for a number of reasons, not least because meteorologists are predicting that the weather will worsen sharply in the next two days. Winds are expected to strengthen and visibility to drop.
Significantly, the ice shelf - which was only about 15 miles deep at the start of the crisis – is now about 100 nautical miles. Distances to safety, therefore, have dramatically increased as the ice field spreads northwards. But, more worryingly, in this shallow part of the sea, the icebreakers are finding that the ice has hit bottom.
Having yesterday "parked" the fish carrier Bereg Nadezhdy (pictured above), with 35 crew on board, the two icebreakers covered 25 nautical miles in 24 hours to reach the Sodruzhestvo, breaking through three big floes in the process. Later, when the two ships are re-united, it is planned to lead them to safety in a single-file convoy of four vessels.
Russia Today talks of temperatures having dropped to -27°C and of a ferocious northerly wind, which is driving the ice into the southern part of the Okhotsk Sea, to the Sakhalin Bay area, where the ships are trapped. Higher winds in particular will intensify the difficulties. Awaiting the ships at the ice edge, we are told is the Magadan icebreaker and a tanker, ready to refuel the Makarov, which is said to be low on fuel.
Meanwhile, as this little local difficulty is sorted out, WUWT reports that nearly 70 percent of the United States is snow covered (and almost all of Canada), with New York City declaring a "snow emergency". The "big freeze" also continues in India and China, in the latter causing considerablecrop losses. But nothing of this contradicts the claim by the British Met Office's Julia Slingo that theworld is getting warmer. These are all local events.
UPDATES: TASS is reporting that the operation to "pilot" the Sodruzhestvo to a loose ice area has started. But, says Tatyana Kulikova, head of the press centre of the Far Eastern sea shipping company, "The operation is proceeding with difficulty: the factory ship has large dimensions: 180 metres long and 20 metres high. It is very difficult to take it in tow."
The procedure described is that the Admiral Makarov "is busy breaking up ice to trench a channel while the higher-powered icebreaker Krasin will pilot the factory ship through it." That is a bit odd, as the two icebreakers are described as sister ships, with identical performance specifications. Meanwhile, the remarkable photograph shows what appears to be a double tow – the two icebreakers together leading out the Bereg Nadezhdy.
Ria Novosti is suggesting that the Sodruzhestvo can be extracted within 12 hours, the Krasin leading it out on "an anchor tow" (i.e., close, but not close-coupled). The vessels are said to have about 12 miles to go before they get to free water, including around three miles of the most treacherous ice. The operation is expected to be completed by Thursday afternoon (presumably Moscow time).
COMMENT: OKHOTSK SEA CRISIS
COMMENT THREAD: BOBBIES
Bruno has a cracking story, picked up from the Dutch Volkskrant newspaper, although it has been widely trailed in the Dutch press - here for instance (use Google translate).
The story concerns Maarten Engwirda, a former Dutch member of European Court of Auditors for 15 years, who retired 10 days ago. He has alleged that abuse of EU funds was swept under the carpet by the ECA. "There was a practice of watering down if not completely removing criticism," he says.
Siim Kallas, the EU commission vice-president, responsible for anti-fraud measures from 2004 to 2010 (now transport commissioner) is accused of putting "heavy pressure" on investigators to water down findings of abuse.
However, Engwirda, who also describes an endemic "cover-up culture" within the court and wider EU institutions that had prevented the true extent of fraud from being disclosed, also claims that changes made to the system in 2008 meant that procedures were "drastically changed" and the same degree of obstruction is no longer being experienced.
One takes that with not so much a pinch as a shed-load of salt, especially as Engwirda tells us that: "All these abuses never came out into the open because of the Kremlin-style information we provided". The process may be different but the abuse most certainly goes on.
Meanwhile, MPs have overwhelmingly voted against amendments to the EU bill, as we anticipated, defeating them by 39 to 314, and the dismal Cash has rolled over with a promise from the government that it will re-write the explanatory notes to the Bill.
Thus, Cameron escapes with his tawdry, contemptible Bill, and the tawdry, contemptible EU continues to steal our money. Once again, therefore, the question emerges: why do we put up with this? The secondary question is one you can imagine. Its day must surely be coming.
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COMMENT: NEW GLOBAL WARMING THREAD
Posted originally on the comments to Booker's column, Dellers has picked up a contribution from "Memory Vault" who lives in Queensland and, with increasing concern, is watching the devastation that has so far claimed more than 70 lives.
But the issue here – as it was with the horrendous bush fires in Victoria in 2009, is that the disaster could by and large have been prevented, or the effects reduced, but for Greenie intervention. And two individuals are particularly in the frame, the first being environment minister Peter Garrett, who took it upon himself to block a proposed dam that would have prevented the flooding of the town of Gympie.
But "Memory Vault" particularly condemns a second individual, Tim Flannery, a professor of earth and life sciences at Macquarie University, chair of the Copenhagen Climate Council, and the 2007 Australian of the Year. It is he, above all, who managed to convince the state government that the predicable cycle of droughts and floods will no longer happen, and that the state, instead of beefing up defences from the last major event 30 years ago in 1974, should prepare for long-term water shortages.
"Growing evidence," declared Flannery, "suggests that hotter soils, caused directly by global warming, have increased evaporation and transpiration and that the change is permanent. I believe the first thing Australians need to do is to stop worrying about 'the drought' - which is transient - and start talking about the new climate". It was input such as this that had the state government spending $1.2 billion on desalination plant, instead of flood defences, a plant now mothballed, as the flood waters mount.
This trend was well established four years ago in 2006, when the city of Perth opened the first large desalination scheme at Kwinana (pictured). Visiting the plant on 18 June 2007, Australia's minister for the environment and water resources, Malcolm Turnbull,was telling the world that Perth was the "canary in the climate change coal mine," a city scrambling to find other sources of water for a growing population.
In December 2008, Ross Young, executive director of the Water Services Association of Australia, was telling Discover magazine that Australia was "the canary in the coal mine when it comes to the impact of climate change on water resources." He added: "Many people thought there would be adequate time to adapt to less water. The lesson from Australia is that the shift has been very dramatic and has occurred in a very short period".
By 10 July 2010, the New York Times was reporting: "Arid Australia Sips Seawater, but at a Cost". In one of the country’s biggest infrastructure projects in its history, the paper told us, Australia’s five largest cities were spending $13.2 billion on desalination plants. And, with a startling lack of originality, Ross Young was repeating the mantra: "We consider ourselves the canary in the coal mine for climate change-induced changes to water supply systems," he said, describing the $13.2 billion as: "the cost of adapting to climate change".
Needless to say, the Queensland state Premier Anna Bligh is now talking of "exceptional events", and the BBC happily chirps about a "freak of nature" – an attempt to reinforce the subliminal message that nothing could have been done.
But the real story is bizarre, another classic example of the greenies forcing major distortions in policy which cost money we haven't got and eventually kill people. Increasingly we see that the obsession with global warming is not a risk-free option. It costs money we can't afford, and lives. This must stop.
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We are thus confronted with the spectre of the state broadcasting service actually doing something useful ... unless there is an ulterior motive. There has to be an ulterior motive.
COMMENT: NEW GLOBAL WARMING THREAD
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It is now Tuesday evening in the Okhotsk Sea area, well after the time when the crisis should have been over and all the ships extracted. Instead, the news is virtually the same as it was yesterday .
The Krasin (pictured) and the Admiral Makarov are still attempting to lead the Bereg Nadezhdy fish carrier out of the ice, the sole difference being that they are reported to be half way to freedom. Monitored by an Emergencies Ministry helicopter – which suggests, at least, that the storm conditions might have abated - this is painfully slow progress. But it is at least progress, if we are to believe what we are told.
The Western media are largely ignoring the operation, the latest being a barely informative report from the UPI agency, giving no hint of the underlying drama.
Should the Bereg Nadezhdy be safely extracted – and neither the Russian authorities nor their media now seem keen to speculated when - it will have taken the combined efforts of the region's two largest icebreakers to get a 13,000-ton ship to safety. (The largest, nuclear icebreakers, are of course, over in the West, their precise whereabouts unknown to us.)
The icebreakers on station will then have to plough back into the ice, which at this time of year – and at the prevailing temperatures, as low as -23°C - is expanding faster than a man can walk. They then have to pull out a 32,000-ton giant, in circumstances that have never been tried before, in an attempt to save over 340 crewmen.
If this is not a drama worth reporting, then nothing is, but then there are so many more important things to write about.
UPDATES: The Voice of Russia is reporting that the Bereg Nadezhdy has been towed "to a safe place" and that the rescue operation has "entered the final, most complicated stage" - the extraction of the Sodruzhestvo.
This, according to Novosti, represents a significant change in strategy. The Bereg Nadezhdy has not been towed clear of the ice. Rather she has been moved to a safer place and "parked", saving time for the icebreakers, which can now turn back earlier than they would otherwise have been able, to reach the Sodruzhestvo.
That they are having to do so suggests an element of urgency, which could mean that the bigger ship is at risk of breaking up. The plan now is to re-unite the factory ship with the fish carrier and then the four vessels will move toward clear waters in a single-file convoy. No timescale has been given.
Voice of Russia meantime notes that "it is for the first time in the last few years that the Tatar Strait has frozen to the bottom ... the ice field is continuously enlarging. It was 25 miles wide only recently, while now the field's width makes up 45 miles".
Just another normal winter, it would seem, with global warming rampant.
COMMENT: OKHOTSK SEA CRISIS
Having abandoned his pledge to give us a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, Dave "Euroslime" Cameron has decided to give us a faux act of parliament which pretends to limit the further acquisition of powers by the EU, long after it has got most of the powers it needs.
Some of the Tory backbenchers, though, are entering into the spirit of things. Presented with a faux Bill, they are working on having a faux rebellion, led by that faux eurosceptic (who still thinks Britain should be in a "reformed" EU), Bill Cash.
The egregious Cash, whose ability to "bore for England" is reckoned to be able to clear the lobby of MPs faster than a fire alarm or an investigation into personal expenses, has tabled amendments to the Bill. This thereby ensures absolutely minimal support, as most MPs would rather poke their eyes out with blunt screwdrivers than support anything Cash put his weight behind.
This especially applies to Labour MPs. Although it was hoped that some might vote for the Cash amendments, Labour sources have dismissed that idea, saying: "We are not voting with the Tory Right". Instead, they will be voting for their party's own, weak as dishwater amendment, which is almost as meaningless as a Miliband speech.
So it is that Euroslime's Bill will get an easy passage through the House tomorrow. There will be some faux excitement from some faux journalists, and then it will all be over – treble gins all round and book a call to Barroso to tell him it's in the bag.
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Sensational new pamphlet J’Accuse…!
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Most of the elderly in Britain are indigenous. Most of the young are the children of migrants.
The British nation and its way of life are in serious danger of disappearing within one lifetime, certainly within two.
“We are committing collective suicide.”
That is the conclusion of a new pamphlet J’Accuse…! by Ashley Mote MEP, vice-president of the Alliance of Independent Democrats in Europe.
'J’Accuse!' accuses the European Union and the British government of the “deliberate destruction of British identity”.
The pamphlet points the finger at uncontrolled immigration, the failure of the British to produce enough children to sustain their own future, the utterly inadequate education of tens of thousands of young people, and the exploitation of so-called ‘terrorism’ to impose a regime of oppression.
Together these factors have eroded fundamental British values. Britain is becoming a third-world country – a western version of a banana republic.
“Much of this change has been imported. It is our fault. We have allowed it to happen and we are now allowing other ideas and ways of life to replace our own.”
'J’Accuse!' goes on…“The whole point about the British way of life is our absolute right to enjoy our country and freedoms in peace. They are not the product of the law. Instead, the law and our government are there to protect that right and those freedoms – not destroy them.
“Yet it is our own government that is today the greatest single source of terrorism. Theirs is the terrorism of state control.”
The number of criminal offences on the statute book has doubled since 1997 – one more for every day Labour has been in power. Britain has become a self-imposed police state.
'J’Accuse!' concludes : “Our British way of life is at terrible risk. We British need to go back to our roots, and re-install our own standards.”
Copies of 'J’Accuse!' are available via the website http://www.ashleymote.co.uk/ or by writing to PO Box 216, Alton, Hants, GU34 4WY.
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MEP, vice-president of the Alliance of Independent Democrats in Europe.
'J’Accuse!' accuses the European Union and the British government of the “deliberate destruction of British identity”.
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Journalist turned businessman turned author. Now a regular columnist, broadcaster and political campaigner. Special interest in British constitutional history.
In 1972 he started his own international marketing business, helping major industrial companies to increase their export business. At one time the company had offices in Houston and Atlanta, USA, Geneva and London. The Tory government's foolhardy attempt to shadow the Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM) in the late 1980s and early 1990s ultimately forced interest rates to 15% and destroyed Ashley Mote's business, along with over 100,000 others.
Having had such bitter first-hand experience of the damage the ERM could do, he started researching the European Union. This led to his book Vigilance - A Defence of British Liberty. Vigilance is one of the fastest-selling books about the EU ever published. His second political book, OverCrowded Britain is about the UK's immigration crisis, and was published in 2003.
In 2000, Ashley drafted a Petition to Her Majesty under Article 61 of Magna Carta, which was later signed by 28 peers and taken to Buckingham Palace by the Duke of Rutland and others. The petition asked Her Majesty not to grant the Royal Assent to the Bill to ratify the EU's Treaty of Nice - an appeal which reports suggest came close to success.
A founder member of the SANITY group (Subjects Against the Nice Treaty), Ashley worked closely with Trevor Colman to produce three videos about the EU. The launch of Shockwaves resulted in sales of over 1000 a day. Since then he has written and directed two others - Better Off Out and Who Governs Britain?
Briefly active in the Liberal Party of Joe Grimond and Jeremy Thorpe, Ashley left when the party was taken over by left-wingers. He joined the UK Independence Party just before the 2001 general election as the only political home for people wanting Britain to leave the EU altogether. At the 2004 European parliamentary elections he won the second seat for UKIP in the south-east of England.
He now sits as the UK's only independent member of the European Parliament, free to fight for the early withdrawal of the UK from the European Union and the restoration of government of the British by the British for the British.
Married with two adult children. Ashley Mote is the author of several other books, including The Glory Days of Cricket, which won the Cricket Society Literary Award in 1997.
He is a member of the Hambledon Club and a Freeman of the City of London. His other interests include music, the theatre, good company and rugby.
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Gerard Batten UKIP MEP
Interview and possible weekly fortnight
Review from Brussels
Interview with Gerard Batten (U.K.I.P- M E P member of the european parliament) Click to Listen
his website, Gerard Batten
24.7.2007
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Experts in their Fields
Dr Richard North
weekly/fortnightly review on EU - THE EU SCEPTIC MOVEMENT AND EXIT STARATEGY FOR UK.
E U Referendum
Dr Richard North explains the The Reform Treaty and Why the people MUST have a vote! with Harold Hoffman
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27.7.2007 (7993)
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Prof Dennis Cuddy
10/27/2007
Modeling the Modern Middle East
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PLEASE NOTE: ACCESS OUR THREE INTERVIEWS WITH PROF DENNIS CUDDY IN 'INTERVIEWS' AND ALSO IN 'LISTEN AGAIN'.
http://britanniaradio.co.uk/?q=node/2
The U.S. waved its light saber at Iran again this week, amid will- they or won't-they speculation about attacking that country, Russian President Putin's admonitions notwithstanding.
The world didn't arrive at today's Middle East in a vacuum. It's largely a product of century-old streams of globalist political thought, coupled with interventions by western counties such as France, Great Britain and the United States, topped off with Shiite Islamic expectations for the re-emergence of the Twelfth Imam. Dr. Dennis Cuddy, Ph.D, author of "The Globalists," is our sole guest for today's perspective-oriented program.27.10.2007
Prof Dennis L Cuddy fortnightly letter from the East Coast
via News with Views
Click to Listen 28.7.2007 (8057)
Dr Dennis Cuddy-A brief dissertation on whats really happening-The Revelations of the WORLD GOVERNMENT-BACKED BY HIS DOCUMENTATION-A MUST LISTEN-A WARNING TO WAKE UP-NOW !!!
THE EU-THE USA-THE MIDDLE EAST-ISRAEL-PAKISTAN-WW2-NAZISM-MONNETT-FABIANS-DIALECTS AND DELPHIC TECHNIQUES- A NEW RELIGION-GLOBALISTS-SOLANA-A WORLD SOCIALIST GOVT IN THE MAKING NOW!!!!!
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS WE SHALL BE HAPPY TO TAKE THEM ON OUR NEXT INTERVIEW
2ND INTERVIEW WITH DR DENNIS CUDDY
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Prof Dennis Cuddy with Harold Hoffman
An interview harold hoffman-world view and global implications
16.1.2007
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Prof Eugene Narrett a series of commencing beginning August
weekly 1 hour interviews on:-
Israel End Times
Israel End Times
Reminder of First Lecture by Prof Eugene Narrett
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2.8.2007 (8179)
To include:
Broad strokes. With illustrative details and examples of the situation in Israel and how it clarifies the drive toward a world state. Then in the subsequent shows, the topics on the list below:
Machiavelli and the Counter-Revolution of Paganism, 1500-1815
Western fragmentation, progress and regression, 1500-1900
Sympathy for the Devil: Romanticism and 'Darwin' 1790-1930
British Hysterics: Gothicism, Feminism and the New Empire
Working for the Three Bloc World: Betrayal, Eugenics, and Control
There's no Success like Failure... 1920 - 1966, Wars, cults and Vietnam
The pivotal year of the endtimes: 1967 and the Great Betrayal, Eras in Conflict
Land for Peace, the borderless world and War Eternal
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Prof. Eugene Narrett lecture-part 2
Machiavelli-and paganism-1500-1815
Click to Listen 8.8.2007 (8353)Link
his current book World War threeBooks by Dr. Narrett
3rd Lecture Machiavelli-Shakespeare
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4th Lecture Shakespeare
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Part 5 William Blake- click to listen
Part 6 Symapthy with the Devil
Prof Narrett part 6 shelley-hegel-marx-Dialectic-new theology in the west-a new social order-auguste comte-darwin-galton-huxley-conflict to religious thought-Romanticism-ROMAN TICISM
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Prof Eugene Narrett lecture 7-Mary Shelley and Frankenstein -click to listen
unausa.org-COMMON PURPOSE-social physchological social control-prohibition-sympathy-despair and horror-Illuminati in Engelstadt & Percy Shelley & Rosicruscianism
Prof Eugene Narrett-leture 8 Shelley-Frankenstein Dialectics-intellectualism gone mad click to listen
Prof Eugene Narrett in conversation with Harold Hoffman
leture 9 Frankenstein or the Modern Prometheus-the monsters education and the authors blind spot: the failure of romantic teaching
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apologies for bad background hiss
Professor Eugene Narrett in conversation with Harold Hoffman lecture 10 Gothicism Terror Awe Majik or Madness into the Culture of the West
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NOTHING NEW ITS OVER 5000 PLUS YEARS-EUGENICS-EUGENICS-EUGENICS-FROM CORRUPTION -DECEIT THROUGH ROMAN-TICISM-GOTHIC GLOBAL TERROR TO HUMAN ELIMINATION
PROF EUGENE NARRETT IN CLASS 11 WITH HAROLD HOFFMAN
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Prof Eugene Narrett and Harold Hoffman discuss the span of history involving the EUGENICS MOVEMEMNT-FROM 1850's to the 1950's lecture 12
The deeper understandings of how this PROCESS AND PHILOSOPHY applies to destruction of Nation States and the furthering of the Global Agenda with such notaries as Machiavelli-Malthaus-Darwin-Galton-Huxleys's-Carnigie-Rockefeller-Sanger-Blavatsky-H G Wells-
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PROF EUGENE NARRETT AND HAROLD HOFFMAN DISCUSS LECTURE 13-THE EUGENICS PROCESS AND THE IMPORTANCE OF 1967 LECT 13 -WHEN ALL WAS POSSIBLE BUT FAILURE HAPPENED-VERY IN DEPTH OF HISTRY TO ALMOST CURRENT TIMES SETTING THE CURRENT SCENE
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Professor Eugene Narrett and Harold Hoffman discuss 1967 Turning Point in the Mid East-Israel
lecture14 GLOBALISATION-IN SPORT ACROSS RUSSIA-EUROPE AND N.AMERICA -DESTRUCTION OF HISTORY FORGETTING NOT REMEMBRANCE-ATTEMPT TO DESTROY RELIGION FOR A NEW RELIGION FRAGMENTATION-FEDERATION-INTERNATIONALIZE-IMMIGRATION AQUARIAN AGE FEMINISM SWINGING 60's BIRTH CONTROL FAMILY UNIT DESTRUCTION-MOVING TO AN AGE OF HI TECH FEUDALISM-ALICE BAILEY
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Prof Eugene Narrett with Harold Hoffman ANNAPOLIS -ISRAEL-THE END TIMES -VITAL TO LISTEN
Israel as the control group for human kind and a template for whats already done in Europe and being done in USA-FROM 1967 TO 1973 -2007-The True state of Israel- Israeli Politics-Whats happening now The Future Problems !!!!!
Prof Eugene Narrett with Harold Hoffman discuss Annapolis-N Intelligence Iran Holocaust
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18.12.2007 16
Prof Eugene Narret in converstaion with Harold Hoffman-Israel's Destruction-Global Security State-what it all means-part 7
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Professor Narrett analyzes the dark side of the War on Terror and exposes its true and startling target. You will read the news with new and opened eyes after examining this study. With his characteristic breadth of relevant sources, he examines Western culture from ancient works to post-Modernism.
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The Policy to Destroy Israel
and timely for Annapolis)with the shifting comments on
geopolitics and religion
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Please note our 10 plus 4 more
interviews to come on britanniaradio
Interviews
In this show, Dr. Eugene Narrett describes the interlocking strands between
British policy from 1920s through 1940s (and timely for Annapolis)
with the shifting comments on
geopolitics and religion of Aquarian guru Alice Bailey.
These facts give a new meaning to "land for peace" and
"internationalizing Jerusalem".
This show exposes the diabolical plans the British
and the wider International Community have,
planned for Israel.
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HIR
Prof Francisco Gil White
History of the 20th Century
14 hourly lecturesd
(Nazi Ideaology and infiltration into terrorist movements
How it effects the Mid East and Israel perhaps future prophetic interpretations?
History of the 20th Century
14 chapters-14 interviews(listed as per his book chapters)
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to his site HIR
part1-as promised
Dissertation by Prof Francisco Gil White
His Background
The Importance of History
The Creation of the Eugenics Movement
Oh -Its those Jews Again
Dr Francisco Gil White-part 2 History of the 20th Century- The Name -Palestine-and Hadjamini al Husseini-in converstaion with Harold Hoffman
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30.7.2007 (8113)
Prof Gil White(-chapter 4-) our part 3- The Rise of the Eugenics Movement in Germany-History-Aristocracy-and the rise of Hitler-the role of the USA/UK ELITE-
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The role of the Vatican -pope pius 12th -chapter 5 part our part 4-Click to Listen
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Who is Robert Gaylon Ross, Sr.?
First Interview with Gaylon Ross Snr.
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PLEASE NOTE: TELEPHONE CONNECTION TO USA NOT GOOD - SO YOU WILL HAVE TO INCREASE VOLUME WHEN GAYLON IS SPEAKING.
http://www.4rie.com/
Born in Big Lake, Texas, he holds a BS degree in Industrial Engineering from Texas A & M University. While active in engineering, he was a licensed Professional Engineer in the State of Texas, and a National Certified Manufacturing Engineer. After graduation, he accepted a commission as a 2nd Lieutenant (later promoted to 1st Lt.) in the Army Security Agency (ASA), a branch of the National Security Agency (NSA), which is a big brother to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Military training was in the field of cryptoanalysis (the breaking of codes), and served as a Company Commander with an Intelligence Unit on the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) in the Chorwan valley of South Korea, from 1956 to 1957 (after the fighting had ceased).
Upon leaving active duty, began his professional career in the petroleum industry. Served as an Industrial Engineer for ten years until being promoted into management, and was a manufacturing Plant Manager for over ten years.The past seventeen years he served as an International Management Consultant, working in the US, Japan, Mexico, Canada, England, and Iran.
After completing the manuscript to the first book, Who's Who of the Elite, he contacted a number of publishers to ascertain their interest in this material. They all declined because of the subject matter, so he formed his own publishing company, RIE, and published this first of fourteen books in progress. The author has devoted the rest of his life to exposing the real truth about those evil ones in this world who would like to make us all their slaves
27.1.2008
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March 23, 2008
Back to the future
By Ted Belman Israpundit, for regular update of news from Toronto, London and Israel.
We discuss Obama Barak and his background. Real revelations! The battle with the Clintons and McCain's position. Finally, Ted Belman's view of Israel's state. Optimistic.
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Dr Sean Gabb director of Libertarian Alliance monthly review of one to two topical news items and their relevance to current issues and the Libertarian Alliance philosophy Libertarian Alliance
Interview with Dr Sean Gabb of the Libertarian Alliance by Harold Hoffman Click to Listen We are pleased to announce the discussion with Dr Sean Gabb-
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John Galt on a fortnightly basis and his views on the current state of Nations and the lack off a Spiritual -Religious Dimension in the West.
The Cassandra File click to listen Be a fly on the wall and listen to John Galt and Cassandra and myself discuss: The failure of the UK and its population.
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1.7.2008
Harold Hoffman interviewed by Tamar Yonah, Israel National Radio. PARADIGM SHIFT: the Financial Tsunami WE ARE IN NOW... Tuesday morning interview on site click to listen
THE PARADIGM SHIFT WE ARE EXPERIENCING.
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Chris Everard. Controversial? Yes Definitely. Thought Provoking? Undoubtedly!
Four weekly interviews
1a: Secret Societies; Illuminati.
click to listen
1b: Spirit Worlds; Illuminati.
click to listen
2: Royalty,
EU,
Space Programmes.
Very Revealing!
click to listen
3:Magic
click to listen
www.enigmatv.com
Filmography -
http://www.illuminatiDVD.com/
http://www.antichristDVD.com/
http://www.SecretSpaceDVD.com/
http://www.SpiritWorldDVD.com/
http://www.LadyDieDVD.com/
He is Britain’s most successful documentary film-maker. He is the only British director making feature-length documentaries for cinema audiences and the only British director to have late show slots every weekend at cinemas in Los Angeles, New York, Paris and Rome simultaneously. His is called the ‘Enfant Terrible!’ (which means the terrible child) of British Cinema by Paris Match magazine.
In 2007, he made no less than 4 x 2 hour feature-length documentaries, which were all subsequently released on DVD, each with 2 hour bonus discs. That means in 2007 he almost single-handedly matched the entire cinema output of the combined British Film Industry. Since 2004, he has made no less than 7 feature-length documentaries which have all been on independent cinema release and then sold to DVD worldwide.
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Previous interviews on site under Listen Again and Listen Now.
Nigel Farage with Adrian Lithgow.
Nigel Farage leader of UKIP
28.10.2006
Daniel Hannan with Martin Jay.
Interview on the EU and its various implications for the UK - Daniel Hannan noted Journalist and MEP FOR S.E. ENGLAND.
Click to Listen
Tamar Yonah with Harold Hoffman.
Harold Hoffman with Tamar Yonah on aspects of the EU.
24.10.2006
John Loeffler: Steel on Steel with Harold Hoffman.
Part 2 of 2 on the EU.
18.11.2006
Part 1 of 2 on the EU.
14.11.2006
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