Monday, 24 October 2011

Why we helped depose an emasculated Gaddafi
  • Real reason Imamobama helped depose, kill Gaddafi

Introducing the Islamic State of Libya..brought to you in part by NATO and the US Taxpayer

The Libyan Transitional Council has declared Libya a "liberated nation" and an Islamic State that will conform to Islamic Law. While this declaration comes as no surprise to those of us who follow and study Middle Eastern Affairs it must and should be a thorn in the side to the White House and State Department who herald the Arab Spring as a springboard for Democracy in the Arab States.

source:http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/libya-declares-libe...

"BENGHAZI, Libya - Libya's top leader declared the country officially "liberated" Sunday from the four-decade rule of Moammar Gaddafi, pledging to replace his dictatorship with a more democratic but also a more strictly Islamic system.

In a speech to a cheering, flag-waving crowd, Mustafa Abdel Jalil, head of the Transitional National Council, promised to ban interest on housing loans and scrap other laws that didn't conform to Islamic jurisprudence.

Tensions have arisen on the Transitional National Council between Islamists and secularists and between former Gaddafi officials and his longtime foes.

Abdel Jalil, a slight and balding former justice minister, paid homage Sunday to those who lost their lives in the civil war. "This revolution started as peaceful, to demand the minimum. But Gaddafi started killing people with heavy weapons," he said. Dozens of people in the crowd hoisted gold-framed pictures of relatives who had been killed.

In what surprised some in attendance, Abdel Jalil gave prominence to the role of Islamic law in the new Libya. "We are an Islamic state," he said, and he pledged to get rid of regulations that didn't conform to Islamic law."

So our belief that this illegal war would yield the world's newest Islamic State sadly seem to have been accurate. We spent over a $1 billion dollars to empower known terrorist and radical Islamic fundamentalists. Congratulations Mr. President and Secretary Clinton. You have once again been played for the idealist fools that you truly are.

Now what?? Look for a power struggle in Libya that will evolve in to an all out Civil War. Syria will be next and Iran is conducting operations in Saudi Arabia and attempted to do so in the United States. Hezbollah is threatening the region with missiles targeted at Tel Aviv. Russia is going to put Putin back in power and they want their former grandeur of the USSR. Turkey is making noises and trying to be a central player among the Arab States with threats to Israel.

Do you see how this is starting to stack up? Many feel that these events are a prelude to the next global conflict. I agree with them. The question is are you ready for the battle that is to come?

We can't face this coming conflict with weak leadership. The weak leadership in this current administration and quite frankly, rank stupidity, is the primary reason for the muscle flexing and scramble for power on a global basis. Our influence and ability to counsel nations is greatly diminished. We will not be able to buy our way out of this one. Throwing money at rogue regimes just empowers them and makes us the "Patsy".

I don't believe this administration is ever going to figure that out. How can they be so STUPID?? I just wonder if November 2012 will be too late? Let's hope not. Let's continue to speak loudly and often. So much is at stake.

A few Muslim responses on Ghadaffi question

I had said that the West's involvement in the Middle East, while appearing to be helpful and humanitarian, invariably winds up supporting regimes that are as bad or worse than the one they replace. This is particularly true if you look at what happens to the Christian population. It is also almost certainly true in terms of the fate of Israel, which always is threatened when a stabilizing tyrant like Mubarek and Ghadaffi is replaced by an Islamist.

This is what is happening in Libya as the country finds itself in the hands of a proponent of Sharia law.

But here are some very mixed views from the Muslim world -- friends whom I specifically asked for opinions on Ghadaffi, and also friends who have discussed this with Muslim friends.

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Subject: Re: Nabil, a favor please

RESPONSE 1 (from a UK friend with a Muslim contact):

Another cafe owner in Shropshire we spoke to at the week-end Don.

He is Iranian and also thought the whole thing was terrible.

What a warning from the NWO to others who buck the system !!!

RESPONSE 2 (A Pakistani):

Hello, Don:

Personally, I have a long string of grievances against Gaddafi. He met a similar fate as Mussolini...shot by his own people while trying to flee. Would I prefer to have seen him face trial as Saddam did before he was executed? I don't know.

I say good riddance to bad rubbish, anyway. Here's what I have to say against him:

1) Before Gaddafi came to power in 1969, Libya did have a Jewish presence within its borders. After he came to power, he made sure Libya was ethnically cleansed of Jews. He was violently, fanatically anti-Jew.
2) He was full of himself. He changed the flag of the country and the official name of the country as well. H even tried to alter the original text of the Qur'an! He called himself "king of kings" which is blasphemous in itself. He claimed that the government he ran was a "people's government" ...yeah, him, him and him...and members of his immediate family. So he wasn't being dishonest about it. Yeah, right!
3) He supported Pakistan when their army butchered my people in the name of Islam back in 1971...as if the Pakistanis were somehow more "Islamic" than my people!
4) His support of brutal dictators and mass murderers near and far...Idi Amin, the men who murdered Sheikh Mujib (under whose leadership Bangladesh was freed from Pakistan in 1971), various European terrorist organizations, and more recently, the group known as Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines.
5) All-female bodyguards, Ukrainian nurses, bunga-bunga...need I go on?

The guy who ranted and raved about "crushing the opposition" was reduced to a whining, whimpering crybaby during his final moments in this world. The Qur'an mentions the fate of tyrants and oppressors in the Hereafter, where they await an even worse fate...the guardians of hell, all angels in God's service, will pour molten gold over their heads and will say to them: "You were so mighty and strong back then! Where is your power now? This is what you have earned! Taste of it!" It does give me a degree of pleasure to see him the way he was during his last moments. I wish to see Assad of Syria, Ahmadinejad and the entire Iranian leadership, Kim Jong-Il of North Korea, and a couple of others not in this hemisphere suffer the same fate.

Take care.
[A Pakistani friend]

RESPONSE 3

RESPONSE 3, FROM US CITIZEN IN PANAMA:

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I adopted US as my home country since 1969 and keep very little contact with the muslim society in Bangladesh as all my brothers are now living in DE or NY. My physician brother who continued to live in Bangladesh passed away about 6 years back while treating a patient with bird flu.

When it comes to religion, I am a very liberal person and avoid judging people or events based on faith. In my view, we have enough problems of our own and should refrain from military adventures abroad. Judging from the tenacity of Gaddafi, he was perhaps more popular than Saddam Hussein. Without the active participation of NATO, both of these guys would still be in power and we would have avoided all the humanitarian & economic sufferings. Today, the Iraquis are no better off than they were under Saddam and my feeling is that the Lybians are likely to have the same fate. Also, what worries me is that the fanatics will gain the upper hand over the secular systems these countries enjoyed during several centuries.


Key general calls Iraq pullout plan a 'disaster'


Just spoke to a mate in Palestine (Jordan) and he said the same; when the US Forces leave, the Iranians will be running southern Iran.


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Monday, October 24, 2011


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