Friday 6 February 2009

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"The woman Jay Hunt, the controller of BBC One, ( a...":

I listened to Jay Hunt's diatribe on the Golliwog Affair and felt she was one of those bbc PC agenda management people that epitimizes the problem, and not the solution, to the bbc's and our woes.
Her sanctimonious refusal to believe the bleeding obvious shows a lot about how senior management is chosen at that bureaucratic institution that has lost touch with its public.


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The woman Jay Hunt, the controller of BBC One, ( as if that job 
wasn't a shameful enough way to spend your life) has degraded the BBC 
into the mire even more than it was already!  The gist of the Beeb's 
stance is contained in this cringe making reply to someone who 
complained about their stance.  Read it and squirm  and why not 
complain about the letter too!


Carol Thatcher's remarks were not made in private but in a BBC Green 
Room in front of a number of people including BBC staff and caused 
great offence to those who heard them.  [It was to three people.- the 
sanctimonious presenter  Chiles Jo Brand and ANOther].  Jo Brand said 
she didn't complain]

The One Show had hoped that Carol would issue an unconditional  
apology to those whom she had offended.  [That would be WHO?] Unlike  
other presenters who have found themselves at the centre of a news  
story in the past, Carol declined to do so.  [Why should she?  I've  
heard much worse continuaslly being used in jest - often on the BBC,  
where I am continuously bt the people they asttack or outrage.  The  
filth on the otherwise good QI for a start] ]

As a result, her position on The One Show is no longer tenable and 
there are no plans to work with her in the future on that show. This 
is because her role as a roving reporter requires her to report on a 
wide variety of issues and to meet a diverse range of people 
throughout the country, many of whom are unlikely to agree that her 
remarks were acceptable even as a joke.  [If the Beeb hadn't given it 
all this publicity nobody would have known the private remark. So if 
anyone is at fault and should apologise it is the Hunt woman who is 
responsible for spreading what she objects  to. ]

This does not mean she is banned from the BBC as a whole but simply 
she is no longer able to fulfil her current role on The One Show.

The BBC considers any language of a racist nature to be wholly 
unacceptable. [It wasn't a racist remark in mpst people's view.  The 
Hunt woman has set hrerserrlf up as the judge and jury in tha`t 
decision ]

Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact us [- - - 'as 
usual we shall ignore the publics' views  but we'll still take your 
money"]

'Hunt -  the racist Inquisitor"  should be sacked at once and the BBC 
apologise before it is broken up and the licence fee abolished

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TELEGRAPH       6.2.09
1. (Leader) BBC causes offence
The corporation has become the self-appointed arbiter of what is 
appropriate behaviour.

Few people can have listened to Jay Hunt, the controller of BBC 1, on 
Radio Four's Today programme yesterday with anything other than 
incredulity and rising anger. Her condemnation of Carol Thatcher over 
the great golliwog imbroglio was almost a parody of the 
sanctimonious, smug, patronising and self-important attitudes that 
have infected the corporation from top to bottom.


Viewed from Broadcasting House, the world is in a constant foment of 
indignation at any perceived affront - unless, that is, the offence  
is felt by people who object to gratuitous sex, violence, swearing,  
boorish behaviour, insults to the Royal Family or to Christians, or 
to the BBC's insidious Left-wing bias. They can all lump it.

Miss Hunt felt that a remark made in private by Miss Thatcher 
warranted a public apology, even though it had not been broadcast and 
only a handful of people had heard it. While Miss Thatcher did regret 
any offence caused, Miss Hunt felt she had not sufficiently abased 
herself before the nation. "We have given Carol ample opportunity to 
give a fulsome (sic) apology and she has chosen not to do so."

What is so grotesque is that Miss Hunt evidently thinks she has 
behaved in a perfectly reasonable way. Miss Thatcher had failed to  
recant in a manner acceptable to the BBC, which is, apparently, the  
self-appointed arbiter of what is appropriate behaviour. If the  
Jonathan Ross affair confirmed how out of touch its executives have  
become from most viewers, this affair has exposed a McCarthyite world  
of denunciation and arbitrary punishment of those who do not hold an  
approved opinion. No doubt Miss Hunt and her colleagues regarded her  
interview as a triumphant exposition of the progressive creed. To 
many of us it was downright sinister.

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2. Carol Thatcher golliwog furore: Is there anyone sensible living on 
Planet Beeb?
The BBC's reaction to Carol Thatcher's comment was hysterical, says  
George Pitcher.

By George Pitcher

First, let's get something that may be counter-intuitive for most 
readers out of the way. Carol Thatcher is not blameless in the 
"golliwog" scandal. I've never met her, but I'm more than willing to 
accept from those who know her that she is no kind of racist. But you 
don't have to be a racist to say racist things.

There is a casual, lazy racism of which we can all be guilty; I'm 
certain that, having also grown up with Robertson's jam, I could  
easily make the golliwog mistake. And if I did so and caused offence, 
I like to think I would apologise for it, as I understand Thatcher 
has tried to do. But her offence is utterly eclipsed by the fatuous, 
vindictive, officious and sanctimonious response to it from Planet 
BBC. It is almost beyond belief that a media organisation supposedly 
staffed by sentient adults could have moved so sententiously to break 
this butterfly on its wheel.

Yesterday morning, much of the nation sat open-mouthed and frozen  
over its breakfast, or struck dumb about our ablutions, as Jay Hunt,  
the controller of BBC One, attempted to justify her organisation's  
thought police in their Stasi-like pursuit of Thatcher. It is worth  
trying to deconstruct what she had to say in this extraordinary  
performance. Under very respectable cross-examination from Today  
presenter Sarah Montague, Hunt claimed that Thatcher's remark was  
"hugely offensive", that the remark was made "in a public space" and  
that Thatcher had refused the BBC's demand to make a "fulsome and  
unconditional apology", so she had to go.

Let's take those allegations in order: First, the "huge offence" that 
Thatcher caused. Hunt said that Thatcher was in conversation 
"specifically" with three people, One Show presenter Adrian Chiles, 
comedian Jo Brand and an unnamed "senior charity worker". She then 
rather extended the offended constituency by claiming that 12 people 
were present, and that the "wider production team" were also offended 
when Thatcher described "an international black tennis player as a 
golliwog".

Chiles is a robust man and we can presume that he is capable of 
looking after himself, not least as a presenter of Match of the Day 
2, where we can also presume he's exposed to some fairly strong 
language with the lads off-air. Jo Brand is one of those "edgy"  
comedians beloved by the Beeb and knows all about making gags about  
people's physical characteristics - fat people, that kind of thing.

The charity worker may have felt a little intimidated in the company 
of these big celebrities, but both Chiles and Brand were more than  
capable of saying something to the effect of, "Oi, Carol, that's well  
out of order". Indeed, reports suggest that they did take Thatcher to  
task at the time. But we are also led to believe by Hunt that they  
and/or others in the room went on to complain of their "huge offence"  
to a BBC executive producer the following day.

Second, the "public place" was a BBC green room, with 12 people in it 
and where there is a convention that what is said remains there, a 
version of the Chatham House rule with which all journalists are 
familiar. By contrast, we know that the incontrovertibly offensive 
Jonathan Ross harassed and insulted an elderly man and his grand-
daughter, publicly and on air. According to Hunt, that's okay because 
Ross served his subsequent suspension and "apologised profusely".

Actually, Ross apologised briefly and glibly on air and has made 
further jokes about the Andrew Sachs affair on his recent shows. But  
then he's not Margaret Thatcher's son and is too expensive to fire, 
his £6 million-a-year contract not having expired, as Carol 
Thatcher's has.

Thirdly, Thatcher did proffer an apology by email for her remark and 
said that she regretted it. But her crime was to continue to claim  
that it was a joke and her apology was not "fulsome and 
unconditional" enough to satisfy Hunt and the BBC's vocabulary Swat 
team. In the world that the rest of us occupy, this should and would 
have been a spat between colleagues.

Thatcher probably should have responded at the time with something 
like, "Yes, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that", and one hopes 
that would have been the end of the story. But, even as it is, there  
are no grounds for any action more extreme than Chiles, Brand and the  
others wandering off to the pub muttering, "I can't believe the silly  
cow said that".

It's as if the BBC occupies a parallel dimension, in which "hugely 
offensive" has acquired some very tight definitions, prescribed by 
executives such as Hunt. Body parts, old people and Tories are 
comedic subjects that are right on. But golliwogs are right out.

The sadness is that Hunt is not incorrect, just utterly inconsistent. 
Hunt clearly believes that everything she describes about the 
reaction to the incident is entirely normal: that a remark made off- 
air in a private conversation should be the subject of the management  
time of an executive producer and that Thatcher should be required to  
make a public apology to the entire nation.

If that's intelligent life on Planet BBC then Carol Thatcher will be 
well out of it.  [As would all decent people.]