Read it and weep - by Pete... Tuesday, October 25, 2011

Read it and weep - by Pete... Tuesday, October 25, 2011

"I plan to support democracy and the British people by voting against the motion."

Graham Stuart MP


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Business as usual - by Pete...

Y'know, there are some positives to consider from this whole escapade. We now know precisely what value e-petitions have... (0) and we now know how much regard our MP's have for our views... (0).

We now know how low the Tories can stoop (if we didn't already) and we can finally, and categorically, demonstrate to all the Conservative Party members, who aren't permanently strung out on crack, that William Hague and David Cameron are about as euroskeptic as José Manuel Barroso.

We now know the shape of the stitch up any referendum would be and we now know how determined our masters are to prevent us from having any kind of say, even when the odds are potentially in their favour. So as an intelligence gathering exercise you could say it was worthwhile, if only to add to the already bulging dossier of evidence we have up to press, that the Tories are scum-sucking reptiles.

As to the rebels, we shall not take them off our "shit list". If the ones who voted against were doing anything more than posturing, they would have used their power and collectively resigned, bringing down the government. If we are to believe it was such a matter of principle that is. They have the power to wield any time they choose. They did not, and nor do they, because ultimately their cushy little earners come first.

Yeah, we got a resignation from a non-entity whose career was going nowhere. When I see someone resign who has a job worth losing, I might be in some way impressed. Essentially what we have seen is the same stonewalling and feathering of nests we have always seen. Daniel Hannan is a great example of how to milk the "anti" campaign for all that it's worth. A vote the wrong way secures a few headlines and gets you off the UKIP target list. Marginal MP's in marginal constituencies have a vested interest in appeasing their locals for that reason. Difficult to say whether it's more boring than depressing.

We could of course tell them directly what we think but the Malicious Communications Act prevents us saying that which should be said and collectively us Norths have seen more of the inside of police cells than we care to again. So yes, business as usual. Move along... nothing to see here.

Given that the whole euroskpetic movement has been an abject failure, it is surely time to change tack. The game has changed. Before it was a rotten system imposed on a functioning country. That is no longer the case. It is now all one system, one entity, rotten through to the core. This isn't just a revolt against the EU now, it's a revolt against the political class in general and any authority it attempts to impose on us.

In that cause you can join us by getting those FOI requests in and we attack that money tree. The white collar looters are still roaming free. They have created enough red tape for us to hang them with it. Take the fight to the enemy you can reach and let the scumset write themselves out of the script permanently.

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The day democracy died - by Richard...

This was nearly the best possible outcome for a ridiculous exercise, the origin of which most of the MPs in the chamber seem to have misunderstood. There were some good speeches, many well-meant, but much dross.

In the end, though, MPs voted 483 to 111 against giving voters a referendum on the EU. Much was heard during the debate about the "political élite", but that élite decided the electorate could not be trusted. They knew best. What little pretence we had of there being a functional democracy crashed and burned.

A referendum could well have been a disaster for the eurosceptic cause, although the MPs were not even prepared to take a marginal risk – not even willing put the case to the test which, with a rigged vote, was almost certain to bring victory to the euroslime. Instead, the majority chose to put party whips before the people they claim to represent.

Possibly, about 80 Tory MPs rebelled. But who cares? Parliament as an institution has spoken - and that is what matters. The MSM will almost certainly make a bog deal about the Tory "rebellion" but the fact is that the MP collective has and raised two fingers to the nation.

Whether we agree with the idea of a referendum or not is immaterial. It is also fact that the majority of people - however misguided (or not) - wanted a referendum. The only thing left to us is to return the compliment. They really are stupid people if they think there are going to be no repercussions. The brighter ones probably realise it. The rest will find out.